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ChasingOurTrunks

Member Since: 19 Aug 2020
Location: Canada
Posts: 89

The trend in the videos I've seen online supports the general consensus here -- Defenders with lift rods leave me wondering "Huh. I thought it would have done better." after watching the videos of off-road performance.

Videos of Defenders without lift rods leave me thinking "How the heck did it do that so easily?".

2nd Oct 2020 3:33pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

You could look at this as an alternative?

With the Electronic Handling and Offroad Kit, you can take advantage of the not fully exploited possibilities of a height-adjustable air suspension. The New Defender can thus be lowered by 28 mm on the road and raised by an additional 30 mm off-road.

Electronic Handling and Offroad Kit ~ €1,485
https://www.matzker.de/Technik-Zubehoer/fu...:6644.html

3rd Oct 2020 9:38am

Defendit..

Member Since: 09 Aug 2020
Location: 's-Hertogenbosch
Posts: 422

I like this very much ..., too expensive IMO , more realistic for 1/3 of the money...

3rd Oct 2020 11:15am

Philip

Member Since: 09 Mar 2018
Location: England
Posts: 510

However you’re making it higher, you will lose some travel across the axle (once the ride height is set, the system is closed across each axle, so there’s a larger volume of air to distribute between the two springs, assuming the crossover is open) - point is, how much difference does that actually make? I remember reading an LR engineer, pre-launch, talking about fitting larger diameter tyres with a 1” lift - so presumably there’s a limited travel/geometry change with smaller height adjustments.

3rd Oct 2020 11:42am

AndrewS

Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3707

2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red

Supacat wrote:
You could look at this as an alternative?

With the Electronic Handling and Offroad Kit, you can take advantage of the not fully exploited possibilities of a height-adjustable air suspension. The New Defender can thus be lowered by 28 mm on the road and raised by an additional 30 mm off-road.

Electronic Handling and Offroad Kit ~ €1,485
https://www.matzker.de/Technik-Zubehoer/fu...:6644.html

It was a Matzker D3 we competed against back in the day (see my previous post) My sons standard Defenders and my standard D3 made the course the Matzker D3 had to be winched through to clear the course. 130's have feeling's as well you know

3rd Oct 2020 12:59pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

Lucky 8 2" suspension lift:

10th Nov 2020 11:02am

Chicken Drumstick

Member Since: 17 Aug 2020
Location: Near MK
Posts: 718

Re: “Lift rods”

Cheshire110 wrote:
Apologies if this has been mentioned anywhere else and I missed it.

Any opinions/feedback on the “lift rods” which seem to be popular for the new defender? Particularly in the US; https://lucky8llc.com/collections/defender...-lift-rods

I like the idea of a 1-2” lift, but the fact that you’re kind of “tricking” the car puts me off a little instinctively...

Nothing new here. Same tech has been used since the Disco3.

It's not really "tricking" it is just an alternative manual calibration of the height sensors.

I would say, if you watch vids of the new Defender off road, especially ones in America. They all look like they bob up and down. And when the suspension is raised up, they have very poor flex. I know the increased ride height/breakover angles can be beneficial. But ultimately I think they probably perform worse off road.

10th Nov 2020 11:46am

Chicken Drumstick

Member Since: 17 Aug 2020
Location: Near MK
Posts: 718

AndrewS wrote:
Back in the day we compared a standard D3 against a rod lifted D3. The standard car was mine. The course was at Yarwell Quarry and very extreme. The rod lifted car failed the course, it was bouncy and its wheels were off the ground alot. My standard car had better suspension travel kept its tyres on the deck longer thus got grip, there is a video over on the D3/4 site somewhere.

Would you be able to link the video? I'd love to see it. Thanks.

10th Nov 2020 11:49am

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