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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018   
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It's only creative until you get caught:
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic74608.html |
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20th Dec 2020 7:48am |
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| LRSpain004 Member Since: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Elche Posts: 68 
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Total UK + EU sales for New Defender were 1,231 in October.
https://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2020/12/eu...g-records/ |
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20th Dec 2020 4:11pm |
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| Oldmowgli Member Since: 31 Oct 2020 Location: Sunny South East Queensland Posts: 34 
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But what is their definition of "sales" ? Deposits on cars received at dealers, Cars actually in production, Cars onboard a ship or transport, Cars delivered to dealers, or Cars actually delivered to customers and thus fully paid ?
If the latter (as I suspect it should be) then "sales" will certainly look woefully low, as for example there were only a handful of cars in Australia in October - there are few more now (mine amongst them), but lots still on order and due to arrive. The impacts of Covid on the factory will take a long time to work their way through - much greater than just 4 months of stopped production. I also think we are at risk of over analysing at this stage. My dealer has told me that JLR here have had a very strong year of sales, not even taking any Covid factor into account - ie: better sales volumes than last year and that they have plenty of Defender orders in the mix. Obviously I am aware that no dealer will ever tell you they are doing badly, and this is Australia, not UK, US, SA etc.....but it tells a different story to what LRSpain004 is gleaning from the blog info. I guess time will tell. [Just adding this note to my initial reply - that I realise this blog info is only referring to UK and EU sales, not the rest of the world - but the headline of this post is implying that these low sales can be extrapolated worldwide, and that is probably incorrect] There is no doubt that it's a great car, and I believe it will sell well - even if it's a slow burner. In the words of Corporal Jones "Don't panic! Don't panic!" |
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20th Dec 2020 11:09pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Cars registered for the first time by make and model, United Kingdom - updated to include 2020 Q3.
The data is difficult to pull details from on the basis of  in, out, so it's open to a degree of interpretation, especially on what are actually new Defenders; but I gave it an honest go.
Click image to enlarge https://www.gov.uk/government/organisation...statistics |
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9th Jan 2021 10:43am |
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| SN Member Since: 29 Jun 2007 Location: SK6 Posts: 729 |
so rarer than hens teeth in the UK at the mo then
 Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history) |
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9th Jan 2021 11:13am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Not if you believe "My dealer has told me..." and don't check out the back lot...
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10th Jan 2021 4:09pm |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481  
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A lot of pre reg which wonβt help residuals 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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10th Jan 2021 4:13pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2171 
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See a lot on the road around here over the last 6months......
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10th Jan 2021 4:13pm |
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| Ads90 Member Since: 16 Jun 2008 Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds Posts: 812 
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I was just thinking after the initial flurry, I havenβt seen any for weeks.
Then remembered I havenβt been anywhere for weeks! π |
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10th Jan 2021 5:19pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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By my maths, there's one every 83kmΒ² as an average, so don't blink or you'll miss your local one. or If the stat that there are 49,071 cities, towns, villages, hamlets and suburban areas in the UK. That's one new Defender for every 17 villages... |
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10th Jan 2021 5:39pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Is your dealer telling you a tall story... "Breaking down Australian car sales statistics by manufacturer reveals Audi's sales are down 11.8 per cent so far this year, with Land Rover (down 23.1 per cent) BMW (down 2.4 per cent), Mercedes-Benz (down 13.1 per cent), Lexus (down 0.2 per cent) all feeling the pain. In fact, of the major premium brands, it's really only Alfa Romeo that has recorded positive growth year on year, owing mostly to the small base expected of a recently launched brand." https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-advice/au...ures-70982 And then actual figures for Land Rover YTD: 2019 ~ 8,879 2020 ~ 6,339 https://www.caradvice.com.au/913476/vfacts...ince-2003/ In case the confused dealer was thinking Jaguar was pulling all the weight: E-Pace β 59 Dec, 662 YTD F-Pace β 21 Dec, 311 YTD F-Type β 10 Dec, 42 YTD I-Pace β 4 Dec, 70 YTD XE β 5 Dec, 196 YTD XF β 3 Dec, 35 YTD XJ Series β 0 Dec, 10 YTD Jaguar Total β 102 Dec, 1326 YTD For December: Defender β 169 Discovery β 71 Discovery Sport β 80 Range Rover β 8 Range Rover Evoque β 173 Range Rover Sport β 201 Range Rover Velar β 62 Land Rover Total β 764 "Some of the more notable sales decreases in 2020 compared to 2019 included the Range Rover (down 51.3%), the Land Rover Discovery (down 34.6 %), the Range Rover Sport (down 25.4%)" https://www.unsealed4x4.com.au/ford-ranger...a-in-2020/
Nitra was actually shut for less than 2 months...unless that's JLR being creative with the numbers again... |
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10th Jan 2021 6:34pm |
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| umbertob Member Since: 21 Jun 2020 Location: Altadena, CA Posts: 133 
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https://jalopnik.com/the-new-land-rover-de...1846034125
It links to an Automotive News report that I can't access as I am not a subscriber, but apparently sales of the new Defender here in the US are doing quite well, 9K+ vehicles sold in less than 7 months, despite pandemic and supply shortages. 2020 NAS Defender 110 HSE 5-seater / Silver / Khaki / Black Pack / Black Roof / Satin Film / Cold Pack / Off-Road Pack / Advanced OR Pack / Comfort + Convenience Pack / Sirius + HD radio / HUD / Meridian Surround |
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12th Jan 2021 2:49am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Suggested breakdown for US:
Q1 ~ 600 Q2 ~ 1,300 Q3 ~ 7,200 https://carsalesbase.com/us-land-rover-defender/ |
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12th Jan 2021 6:02am |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3328 
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Jaguar Land Rover sales fall by a quarter in 2020 due to pandemic
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industr...e-pandemic WARNING. This post may contain sarcasm. |
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12th Jan 2021 8:30am |
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