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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2645   
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Wont be long before one certain country starts buying up the planet one business at a time......
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20th Oct 2020 7:07pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018  
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Interesting to see the quarterly split, and things went backwards in August?
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27th Oct 2020 1:47pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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Could be because most of Europe shuts down for its summer break in August so only minimal workforce available. We used to dread having to make repairs or even dry dock from mid July through to mid September as many engineering works had only skeleton staff on call and nowhere near a full workforce available.
Another UK sale notched up today.......... the guy who delivers coal to the house across the courtyard from mine stopped me this morning and told me he has ordered a 90 to replace his aging 110. Didn’t say which spec but he did say he loves the Pangea Green with contrast roof. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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27th Oct 2020 1:51pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2760
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Normal seasonal shape I’d have thought... people wait for the new plate. Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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27th Oct 2020 3:47pm |
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| lohr500 Member Since: 14 Sep 2014 Location: Skipton Posts: 1319 
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Any idea what the difference is between retails and wholesales? Could the high Sept wholesale spike be a raft of dealer 1st registrations as they get pushed into taking their quotas?
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27th Oct 2020 3:58pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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UK yes, but don't forget that these are global sales, so I don't think that explains it, unless other markets got no vehicles, and there's always inventory from the earlier months.
Every retail sale has to be first wholesaled to the dealer first. I'd have thought it's just normal inventory flowing through. Not forgetting that JLR have stated that the final two quarters of production was required to fulfil orders placed. So it should all be flowing through to retail. That was supposed to be 30,000 orders ~ with only 12,000 wholesaled in Q3, it means Q4 needs to get 18,000 wholesaled. Not impossible but why not linear production? It looks like there's been issues at Nitra, either production line or parts supply, and it's taken until September to resolve? Dealers have to pay in full for the vehicle before it's shipped from Nitra, so I guess that's when it's counted as wholesaled. It's only counted as retail once it's sold, paid for, and usually registered for the owner by the dealer. So there's a natural time lag between the two. |
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27th Oct 2020 4:32pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Latest update:
Click image to enlarge What's interesting is this now shows the gap between wholesales and retails from what I'm assuming is the beginning of production for retail sale (as opposed to the prototypes, pre-production models, etc). Global dealer inventory then sits at 7,637. That's 44% of actual global retail sales or 30% of global wholesale sales. |
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15th Dec 2020 10:18am |
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| Simon Audi Member Since: 19 Nov 2020 Location: Newport Posts: 544
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Yes - seems a lot of stock - until you concider 6 to 8 weeks from shipping to retail in USA and Asia and Australia.
Then that probably halves that number... but there is for sure lots of stock available.. even the new 3.0L i6 diesels.. Just search Autotrader.. |
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15th Dec 2020 11:03am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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Last week when I called into my local dealership there was hardly room to park on their site because of new Defenders and Discovery 5’s, makes me suspect stock piling in case the worst happens on Dec 31st 2300 and there is no trade agreement due to Boris’s pigheadedness....... the dealer is part of Pentland/ John Clark Group with several JLR franchises so possible they are holding group stock as no room at other branches. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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15th Dec 2020 11:09am |
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| milesr3 Member Since: 12 Feb 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 873 
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Interesting - surprised to see discounted i6 diesels out there already. |
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15th Dec 2020 12:33pm |
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| Oldmowgli Member Since: 31 Oct 2020 Location: Sunny South East Queensland Posts: 34 
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[quote="Supacat"][quote="Cheshire110"]
I concur....and that wait has been very long for some of us. Ordered mine back in March, and the ship arrived with it 10 days ago, take delivery this week. Dealer tells me that the same ship contained cars ordered a lot earlier than mine too. It has been quite frustrating finding out that US and UK have had vehicles for 6 months and happily modding them whilst most of us Antipodean's have been waiting patiently..... I expect there will be more sales building in all markets when the new vehicle gets seen and experienced in the flesh - but I agree they will eat into Disco 5 sales before denting other marques. (I am a case in point) Anyway, I'd advise everyone not to rely upon the numbers presented in accounting reports. In my many years in industry I have found that you simply can't trust accountants to present data clearly and honestly. JLR (or TATA) may have decided they need to present 2020 in the worst light and get the bad news out of the way so that it will show an upturn in 2021. Lets hope so. We need JLR and the new Defender to continue. Oldmowgli  |
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16th Dec 2020 2:54am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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I think for the antipodean markets to get their cars sooner there might have to be a huge continental drift to get the physical distance between you and the rest of the world a bit less ............
Putting on my containership captain’s hat it took us minimum of 6 weeks Port to Port via Suez, Fremantle, Adelaide and Melbourne to get from Southern European ports to Sydney (often a lot longer when the Aussie wharfies were on strike). From Southern or Northern Europe it takes a week by sea port to port to get to the USA East Coast, 10 days maximum in the winter with bad weather, although last winter I did a 14 day crossing Le Havre to Newark and ended up on a route south of the Azores and still got hammered (and all the cargo got there, none fell off on passage!). It could be less in summer - Le Havre to Newark/ New York at full chat 28 knots we could do it in a couple of hours over 4 days....... but mostly we were scheduled on a 7 day crossing to save fuel and to maintain a weekly sailing schedule with 4 ships on the service. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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16th Dec 2020 9:41am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Do you really mean to hope that JLR are guilty of false accounting?  |
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16th Dec 2020 5:45pm |
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| zilch Member Since: 11 Sep 2019 Location: Whitsundays & Sydney Posts: 820
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no sand bagging to see here, move right along  yet another pommie bar steward down under
MY20 110 P400 SE Defender MY10 3.0 RR Sport |
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16th Dec 2020 10:27pm |
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