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rustyredwreck

Member Since: 16 Jan 2020
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 24

ABS/ Traction Control Problems

Dear all,
I've searched through the archives here and I can't find a simple answer to my problem, so I was hoping someone might be able to help.

I drove my 2003 TD5 to the local supermarket. Parked up and went shopping.

Returned and started the engine and the ABS, ! and TC lights came on. It did not happen when I was driving. Driving does not appear to have been affected and there are no peculiar noises in the engine bay or around any of the wheels.

I have driven home and parked and stopped/ started the engine again - lights still on.

I have looked through the threads and I was wondering whether I might have deactivated the ABS by pressing the brake pedal (I have seen a few posts on this - although I don't pretend to understand them that well) - if I have, it was accidental.

If this is the problem, can I re-activate it? If not, any suggestions?

Any help gratefully received

Neil

14th Jun 2020 2:19pm

4RF RDS

Member Since: 19 Jul 2015
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 940

2000 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Epsom Green

Get is scanned and see what it says. In the absence of a scan tool... Make sure your ABS sensors on the wheels are well seated. They can back out sightly.

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14th Jun 2020 2:36pm

bankz5152

Member Since: 02 Feb 2017
Location: South London/North Kent
Posts: 2173

Pull the fuse to reset it.

If it comes back on its a fault likely a damaged/broken sensor.

As above check all are properly seated. Instagram @defender_ventures
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14th Jun 2020 3:20pm

ickle

Member Since: 22 Jul 2010
Location: South Vendee
Posts: 1786

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White

As above, plus a loose wheel bearing, dodgy connections etc.

Friends Disco used to do it if you adjusted the seat............

14th Jun 2020 3:22pm

rustyredwreck

Member Since: 16 Jan 2020
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 24

Pulled the fuse and replaced - still showing as a fault.

I'll be donning overalls and having some fun tomorrow.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Neil

14th Jun 2020 5:46pm

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2840

The trouble is, ABS rarely kicks in on a Defender driven normally, even in the wet.
So the shuttle valve in the ABS unit can stick.

Mine did the same, get it reset then find a piece of grass or gravel and get the ABS to kick in a few times. After that it will most likely be OK.
Try to “use” the ABS occasionally, getting the near side wheels on gravel/mud/grass usually does it.

Mines been fine since.
Obviously this doesn’t always work and you may have an actual fault, but it’s worth a try.
Also l think you need to reset it with a diagnostic tool once the warning lights are on.

14th Jun 2020 7:04pm

roel

Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Lelystad
Posts: 2039

to switch abs off you have to tap the brake pedal 10 times in a quick succession, I will become active again automatically above 15 km/hr?
You don't deactivate it very easy by accident.
So I am sure that didn't happen.

Like what is said before check your sensors or the shuttle valve. Roel

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14th Jun 2020 7:39pm

OsloBlue

Member Since: 14 Jul 2018
Location: Essex
Posts: 823

Really? i never saw that in my owners manual? I'm on IG: https://www.instagram.com/osloblue42/
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14th Jun 2020 7:47pm

roel

Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Lelystad
Posts: 2039

There are lots off options not in the manual.

On some cars you can switch the seatbelt beep off by pushing the seatbelt in 10 times in very quickly. I.e. Ford Focus and mondeo some years around 2005 I believe. It also works in a Disco 3 pre 2007 I don't know about the later ones. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)

14th Jun 2020 7:57pm

bankz5152

Member Since: 02 Feb 2017
Location: South London/North Kent
Posts: 2173

rustyredwreck wrote:
Pulled the fuse and replaced - still showing as a fault.

I'll be donning overalls and having some fun tomorrow.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Neil

That wont help. You need diagnostics to tell you whats gone wrong. 9/10 times there wont be a physicaly issue withthe sensor.

ABS can be hard to turn on but TC is very easy Instagram @defender_ventures
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14th Jun 2020 8:01pm

RoddyK05

Member Since: 08 Apr 2015
Location: Inverclyde
Posts: 633

Not an answer, but a question. Do all Td5s have ABS? If so I certainly wasn’t aware mine had. Likewise with TC - do they all have it and how would I know?

14th Jun 2020 9:18pm

bankz5152

Member Since: 02 Feb 2017
Location: South London/North Kent
Posts: 2173

No. Only XS Defenders and mid - high spec D2s.

If it has ABS it has TC Instagram @defender_ventures
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14th Jun 2020 9:23pm

Mike c

Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Maldon, Essex
Posts: 930

Mine has ABS and tc, it's not an xs. It was optional on all variants and standard on xs.

It will have an ECU under the bonnet and abs tc lights on dash that should illuminate on startup, abs goes off after few seconds, Tc lamp should extinguish once driving over 5mph.

15th Jun 2020 5:45am

bankz5152

Member Since: 02 Feb 2017
Location: South London/North Kent
Posts: 2173

Fairly rare though! I think the option was around £1800! Instagram @defender_ventures
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15th Jun 2020 7:48am

Mike c

Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Maldon, Essex
Posts: 930

This is true!

But there are otherwise basic spec ones out there with it fitted, likewise with ac, also I think certain fleet users specified these options such as mod/police by default.

15th Jun 2020 7:55am

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