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Zed



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Moderate Tories join greens to call for fossil fuel car ban by 2030

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/20...an-by-2030 WARNING.
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Bluest



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To be honest I think long term it won’t be bad for us enthusiasts of internal combustion. Once the masses have been moved in to something else, electric, hydrogen, whatever, we’ll be left alone to enjoy our old relics. Diesel is going to be around for trucks for a long time yet, so availability shouldn’t be an issue either. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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I agree and I intend to keep at least one petrol or diesel on the road regardless. However I won't be buying a new diesel anytime soon. The writing is on the wall now and when the music stops I don't want to be stuck with a white elephant on my drive. WARNING.
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I'd better buy a new barge pole for our narrowboat!

I hope they're going to electrify all the railway lines as well.
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Mossberg wrote:
I can see only one way electric cars will a viable alternative, and that is to have replaceable batteries. All batteries would have to be a universal standard where you would have to go to a battery changing station rather than a petrol station. You would need an attendant to change them (unless this could be automated). This would allow for an instant"fill up" which would remove the range issue. This would allow for focused charge areas (battery stations), so the infrastructure change would be significantly reduced.


Like this perhaps?

Ray4️⃣Tesla⚡️🚘☀️🔋 (@ray4tesla) Tweeted:
Wonder how Tesla’s battery swap works for this Model 3. So creative and easy. Just kidding lol. https://t.co/47v1U1h5TF https://twitter.com/ray4tesla/status/1297044946394865664?s=20
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Zed



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UK plans to bring forward ban on fossil fuel vehicles to 2030

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/20...es-to-2030 WARNING.
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Sales of eco-friendly cars overtake diesel

Sales of green cars have jumped above diesels for the first time, bolstering claims that traditional fossil-fuel vehicles are in terminal decline.

Official figures show that 33,000 pure electric and hybrid cars were registered between April and June, compared with 29,900 diesels.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/sa...-dntblxhnz WARNING.
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Zed that could be down to the fact that some manufactures are not building new diesel versions of certain models anymore. The new Juke that i make parts for, i don't think there is going to be a diesel version, I know there is talk of a hybrid or a electric version.
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I thought political subjects were supposed to be taboo here. I see it’s mentioned the top of this page. Yet again, as is the above posts made here just to annoy existing members here which will almost all be predominantly Diesel Defender owners. Yawn $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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They are going to have to increase the offering of towing capable EV’s and vans then. With the staycation now meaning Caravans and Motorhomes are one of the biggest growth areas in leisure, the offering of EV’s that can tow a big caravan must be almost zero. I think the Tesla is the only pure BEV that can? 1951 80" S1 2.0
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Maybe add batteries to the caravan and use to extend the range of EVs? - more weight though. Charged via the solar panel/onsite power feed for the trip home? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Powered trailers?

There's the Rivian for towing, and I think a host of competitors following on it's heels.
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Many caravans now have these motor mover thingies, perhaps they could be upgraded to become full BEV caravans! Rolling with laughter
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Who knew ~ they already exist:


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"E.Home Coco, a small, stylish concept trailer with a floor-mounted lithium battery and a dual-motor axle designed to decrease towing demands, add mobile power capabilities and provide handling advantages on the highway and at camp."

https://newatlas.com/dethleffs-electric-coco-caravan/56056/



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Supacat wrote:
Powered trailers?

There's the Rivian for towing, and I think a host of competitors following on it's heels.


Not sure many people want a small HGV tractor unit ......certainly I don't.......
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