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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17391   
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Yes, it is a well-known feature. There are solutions, which vary from moving the handles round a bit on their spigots, through bungee straps, to fitting electric lift motors.
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13th Feb 2019 10:13pm |
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| big110 Member Since: 02 Nov 2016 Location: Sweeden Posts: 342 
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ahh move them around to the facing down position?
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13th Feb 2019 10:15pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5711 
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Just move the handles so they are in a position that down of the handle would make the window raise. That way as they vibrate they will be forcing the window shut, not opening it.
It’s worked for my last two Defenders.  |
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13th Feb 2019 10:26pm |
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| big110 Member Since: 02 Nov 2016 Location: Sweeden Posts: 342
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Easy to remove? Landy isn’t here at the moment
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13th Feb 2019 10:31pm |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1841 
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Thanks for posting the question! Obviously I didn't know it was a common thing. I'll be rebuilding new 2nd row doors soon - I'll make sure the winder is properly placed! Donald
1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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13th Feb 2019 10:48pm |
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| JPE Member Since: 19 Nov 2018 Location: South West England Posts: 335 
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Having same problem, thanks I'll adjust mine also.
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13th Feb 2019 10:51pm |
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| Doc P Member Since: 03 Apr 2016 Location: Midlands Posts: 565
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Yes. The winder handle is held onto the spline of the winder by a small circlip which engages with a groove in the spline (I’ll send a photo if I get a minute). Wrap a piece of thin cloth around the base of the handle and slide it back and forth (whilst pulling it in the direction of the base of the handle) and that’ll pop the clip off - just don’t ber-ding the clip onto the lawn like I did! |
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16th Feb 2019 8:19am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17391
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Mine used to drop irrespective of the knob position, and I used to have a short loop of bungee round the knob and door handle to stop this. The permanent cure was to fit an electric lift kit to the second row.
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16th Feb 2019 9:14am |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1841
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^^^^^ irrespective of position...
I was thinking about this, and came to more or less the same conclusion. If the window is dropping, then the weight of the glass, plus the winder 'gubbins' is going to be so much heavier that a small plastic handle, surely? If the window wants to drop,I guess it will just drop - unless you lock the handle somehow. I assume another solution is to make sure that the window channels/felts, and the internal and external waist seals are in good nick. Changing all of that is much more involved though, so a bungee on the winder sounds like a cunning plan in the meantime. Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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16th Feb 2019 9:26am |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5711
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Two 110s. Both used to have dropping rear windows. Moving the handles sorted the problem on all for me.
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16th Feb 2019 9:46am |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1841
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Cool! Happy to be proved wrong. I'll certainly try that first. Donald
1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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16th Feb 2019 10:04am |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5711
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I’m not saying your wrong, just that it has worked for me.
It a Defender, so nothing it definite |
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16th Feb 2019 10:33am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17391
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I think it all depends on how much friction there is in the mechanism. If enough, then adjusting your knob will do the trick. On mine, however I positioned my knobs the glass would drop, so this lead to the bungee-round-the-knob trick which sorted the problem. The electric solution is better though.
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16th Feb 2019 12:35pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5711
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Have you a link to your electric window install? Would be a nice extra. Was surprised it wasn’t on my Tdci rears.
Andy. |
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16th Feb 2019 12:52pm |
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