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| Badger110 Member Since: 06 Feb 2018 Location: South hams Posts: 1039   
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17th Dec 2018 7:13pm |
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| rallysteve Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2227 
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You would be better swapping out the drive flange bolts for capheads.
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17th Dec 2018 8:03pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17386 
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This is an age-old problem with 30mm spacers and Boosts, the (permanent) solution is to replace the drive flange bolts with hex socket head capscrews (widely and incorrectly known as "Allen bolts").
Edit: simultaneous post! |
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17th Dec 2018 8:04pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3676 
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Great call. Are they M10?
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17th Dec 2018 8:22pm |
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| rallysteve Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2227
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M10x1.5 45mm length. Either grade 10.9 or 12.9 will do the job nicely. Loctite and tighten to 65Nm.
Steve 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread |
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17th Dec 2018 8:42pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3676
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Cheers Steve, much appreciated.
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17th Dec 2018 8:46pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20376
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Mine are 12.9 and you can use a spring washer instead of Loctite, much less risk of bolt breakage for mainentence and they won't go anywhere.. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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17th Dec 2018 9:36pm |
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| rallysteve Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2227
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We will have to diagree here. Lock spring/split lock washers are pretty useless.
If not using loctite you might as well just torque them up, you will stand a better chance of getting near the target preload without a lockwasher. Also a standard lockwasher designed for a Hex Head bolt/set screw is too large diameter for a Socket Head capscrew and is possible that it will interfere with the alloy in the same way that the current bolts do for the OP Steve 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread |
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17th Dec 2018 10:36pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20376
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The spring washers I used were the exact dia of the hex cap head bolts I used.
Perhaps you are thinking of a different type to what I am? Blackwolf I believe uses the same set up as me with no problem and alleviates the issue that the OP had originally complained about. (In fact recommended this set up to me, and does indeed work well.) Bear in mind there are different types of washers, and I used 'spring washers' and not 'lock washers'. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R ๐ฌ๐ง๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ฎ๐ช๐บ๐ธโฝ๏ธ๐ข๏ธโ๏ธ๐งฐ๐ช |
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17th Dec 2018 11:12pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1763 
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Diameter excepted, I am also fairly convinced that spring washers do very little, based on the research I've done.
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17th Dec 2018 11:24pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8032  
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Nord locs work well. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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18th Dec 2018 6:56am |
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| rallysteve Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2227
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We seem to be over-complicating matters here. The most important thing here is to ensure that the bolts acheive as close to optimum preload as possible. This is done by using a torque wrench in this application (which itself is massively innacurate and dependant on so many factors).
Vibration loosening shouldnt really be an issue on the rotation of the hub, your wheel nuts dont use any form of supplementary locking means and they are a little more critical. Drive flange bolts usually break as they have been over or under torqued or because someone has just wedged some rusty bolts back into a rusty thread still full of old threadlock and jammed them in. Just run an M10 tap through the holes, use some nice new bolts with or without threadlock and torque them to 65Nm. Steve 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread |
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18th Dec 2018 8:00am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8032
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Possibly, but we found as you ran larger tyres 37, 40s and 44s that if drive member bolts werent wired or nord locked then they came undone, was just passing on a solution. it worked for us. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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18th Dec 2018 12:56pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20376
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JST- I was going to me mention your solution but I couldnโt remember who it was that used the Nordlocs.
Of course this was yourself. So there are multiple solutions possible for the OP to decide what they might like to chose to do $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R ๐ฌ๐ง๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ฎ๐ช๐บ๐ธโฝ๏ธ๐ข๏ธโ๏ธ๐งฐ๐ช |
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18th Dec 2018 2:45pm |
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