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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4729  
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Could well do but the vehicle would not be road legal then as it would not comply with the laws that specified the fitting of the plastic bumper in the first place. Also it would have to be notified to my insurance company as a modification and they might not cover it as it did not comply with the laws thus in force re the plastic bumper. Eurocrats have a lot to answer for.Hopefully no plastic bumpers for a while yet. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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22nd Jun 2011 8:10pm |
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| Drover Member Since: 27 May 2011 Location: Central Coast NSW Posts: 53 
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Yes, the new 2.2lt is straight out of the transit, same 6 speed box etc..... Get the 2.4lt while you can. |
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23rd Jun 2011 9:06pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6312  
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as mentioned the 2.2 is the 'same' engine different bore and not the PSA engine found in the freelander.
when I was told about this about 12 months ago I was also told about a modification to be more pedestrian friendly? no idea what that means but could be a new bumper or it could be a load of rubbish or as mentioned now commericail no need to pursue that option? |
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24th Jun 2011 8:48am |
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| Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 422 
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I wonder, though, if there are changes coming to the classification? Apparently the commercial status means it's actually quite difficult to bring into Finland, and many other EU countries. I would have thought this would all be standardised throughout the EU, but regulations do seem to differ a bit per country.
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25th Jun 2011 9:32pm |
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| BigWheels Member Since: 21 Mar 2010 Location: Somerset Posts: 1405  
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If all will be commercial, does that mean there will be no more production station wagons? Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
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26th Jun 2011 7:39pm |
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| DasLandRoverMan Member Since: 24 May 2011 Location: Dumfries & Galloway Posts: 31 
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Every defender (even S/W's) has been a classed as a commercial from 'I think' 09 on.
To be honest, I think if people are stupid enough to be somewhere that a large blunt fronted vehicle might run them over then it's their own fault. Not the people who build em. 1982 Wife 1984 300 Tdi 110 H/T 'Recovery' Plus 4 kids and a dog. Previously owned: 1956 86" Series I, 1960 SWB Series II, 1964 Series IIA Forward Control, 1966 Series IIB Forward Control, 1969 Series IIA Lightweight, 1969 Series IIA One Ton, 1973 Series III One Ton, 1975 101 Forward Control, 1987 V8 90 CSW, 1988 2.5 TD 90, 1988 V8 110 CSW, 1992 200Tdi Defender 90, 1993 V8 Range Rover, 1995 300 Tdi Discovery. |
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26th Jun 2011 7:52pm |
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| BigWheels Member Since: 21 Mar 2010 Location: Somerset Posts: 1405
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So I'm losing money keeping my 08?! Could I get it re-classified? Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
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26th Jun 2011 8:03pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3709 
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The re classification discussion has taken place a few times. Try the search button
 I just tried it and found this thread
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic3103.h...commercial 130's have feeling's as well you know  |
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26th Jun 2011 8:16pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3709
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Again a search will find loads of post where this has been discussed
The answer to your question is no as your 08 will be classified as M1 construction in the Vehicle Category on the V5C (Registration Certificate) A commercial Defender is Classed as an N1. Its all about the construction rules that were worked to when the vehicle was built. M1 = Vehicles used for the carriage of passengers and comprising no more than eight seats in addition to the driver’s seat. N1 = Vehicles used for the carriage of goods and having a maximum mass not exceeding 3.5 tonnes 130's have feeling's as well you know |
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26th Jun 2011 8:28pm |
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| JSG Member Since: 12 Jul 2007 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2412
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It is from 2011 model year. John http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk 2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS |
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26th Jun 2011 10:59pm |
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| DasLandRoverMan Member Since: 24 May 2011 Location: Dumfries & Galloway Posts: 31
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You'll know better than me John. Wonder were 09 came from? 1982 Wife
1984 300 Tdi 110 H/T 'Recovery' Plus 4 kids and a dog. Previously owned: 1956 86" Series I, 1960 SWB Series II, 1964 Series IIA Forward Control, 1966 Series IIB Forward Control, 1969 Series IIA Lightweight, 1969 Series IIA One Ton, 1973 Series III One Ton, 1975 101 Forward Control, 1987 V8 90 CSW, 1988 2.5 TD 90, 1988 V8 110 CSW, 1992 200Tdi Defender 90, 1993 V8 Range Rover, 1995 300 Tdi Discovery. |
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27th Jun 2011 6:59am |
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| JSG Member Since: 12 Jul 2007 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2412
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Dunno mate - the only reason I know for a fact it was 2011 model is that it was a pleasant surprise to find out i'd save money on the new one John
http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk 2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS |
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27th Jun 2011 8:53am |
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| Axel Member Since: 22 Jun 2011 Location: Bochum Posts: 107  
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Hi Folks,
I hope the new engine will be the only major change in the 2012 model .... I'd hate to see my new Defender being delivered with independent wheel suspension and/or plastic bumbers etc ...  Best Regards,
Axel |
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5th Jul 2011 10:24am |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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do not worry Axel, only the bore (-1.8mm) not more,..... Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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5th Jul 2011 12:04pm |
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