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conor998

Member Since: 19 Jan 2011
Location: Wicklow
Posts: 4

2008 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Santorini Black

engine

I have had a 2008 puma and I have also driven a 2008 freelander 2.2 on many occasions with and without the same large and loaded trailer that I tow with the Puma.
In my honest opinion, the 2.2 engine wins hands down in both low down Torque and power. The freelander also did 45mpg on average and that was an auto box.
I don't expect that sort of MPG from a defender with the 2.2 but 35mpg would be reasonable I reckon ????
Hopefully the don't detune the motor for defender use. 150+ bhp would be nice.
With the way fuel prices are, I would welcome the 2.2 as apposed to the TDV6 option.
I'm holding out to see what new engine is fitted before I order a new one.

17th May 2011 11:40pm

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2646

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

Re: engine

conor998 wrote:
I'm holding out to see what new engine is fitted before I order a new one.

I'd hurry & get the 2.4. Any engineer will tell you: extracting more power from a smaller engine will only result in more stress, leading to an early failure.

Europeans and their stupid emissions regulations

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19th May 2011 12:02pm

warren

Member Since: 14 Oct 2009
Location: East Lancs.
Posts: 903

2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Santorini Black

Re: engine

Naks wrote:

I'd hurry & get the 2.4. Any engineer will tell you: extracting more power from a smaller engine will only result in more stress, leading to an early failure.

Europeans and their stupid emissions regulations

There's no replacement for displacement!

21st May 2011 12:25pm

Fox

Member Since: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 72

Re: engine

warren wrote:
Naks wrote:

I'd hurry & get the 2.4. Any engineer will tell you: extracting more power from a smaller engine will only result in more stress, leading to an early failure.

Europeans and their stupid emissions regulations

There's no replacement for displacement!

So you'd be better off with the Td5 then?

21st May 2011 5:17pm

NinetyTD4

Member Since: 22 Apr 2011
Location: North
Posts: 397

Re: engine

Fox wrote:
So you'd be better off with the Td5 then?

imho the TD5 is more of a deafener ... had one to drive for a ride and the PI Diesel engine was kinda noisy, or military jet so to say

21st May 2011 8:13pm

Fox

Member Since: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 72

Re: engine

NinetyTD4 wrote:
Fox wrote:
So you'd be better off with the Td5 then?

imho the TD5 is more of a deafener ... had one to drive for a ride and the PI Diesel engine was kinda noisy, or military jet so to say

My reply was in answer to the suggestion that a more powerful, but smaller engine would be more stressed, so it's better to have the older bigger capacity engine. If so for 2.4 Puma -vs- 2.2 new engine then why not 2.5 Td5 -vs- 2.4 Puma?

Didn't want to get into discussing the merits of the Td5 in general as this is a thread about the new Defender engine.

21st May 2011 9:35pm

NoDo$h

Member Since: 18 Aug 2007
Location: Buried in deer guts in Dorset
Posts: 972

PLEASE let them use this opportunity to fit an auto box

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30th May 2011 8:11pm

Higgers

Member Since: 08 Apr 2009
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 668

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red

Whats the latest on this one?

Any dates for when they are going to change the engine??

Cheers

Ian

19th Jun 2011 2:57pm

rossy

Member Since: 29 Nov 2010
Location: Co. Roscommon
Posts: 1296

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey

There are quite a few posts on this Ian.

When the dealer ordered mine nearly four weeks ago I was told it was one of the last 2.4s available - and thats for late July build. Apparently all orders taken since then will have the 2.2 with the DPF (in all but a few variants) and the earliest deliveries for those will be in October. Whether thats true or not I'm not sure but thats what the dealer said anyway

19th Jun 2011 8:32pm

jerseyman

Member Since: 21 Jul 2009
Location: Jersey
Posts: 279

I wonder why they did not use this engine from the outset rather than the transit engine?

19th Jun 2011 10:10pm

JSG

Member Since: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 2412

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

jerseyman wrote:
I wonder why they did not use this engine from the outset rather than the transit engine?

The new one IS a Transit engine. John

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2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS

19th Jun 2011 10:33pm

jerseyman

Member Since: 21 Jul 2009
Location: Jersey
Posts: 279

Ah, i did not realise that the Feelander engine was also a transit engine.

20th Jun 2011 9:46am

JSG

Member Since: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 2412

jerseyman wrote:
Ah, i did not realise that the Feelander engine was also a transit engine.

It isn't, but as far as I'm aware it's a 2.2 Transit engine going in the Defender and not the Freelander engine.

John

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2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS

20th Jun 2011 10:00am

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4729

Besides the 2.2 tdci engine, will there be any other changes coming in August? I was thinking along the lines of those plastic bumpers. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

22nd Jun 2011 7:34pm

Landie Boy

Member Since: 14 Jan 2011
Location: Essex
Posts: 431

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

spudfan wrote:
Besides the 2.2 tdci engine, will there be any other changes coming in August? I was thinking along the lines of those plastic bumpers.

Surely you could just swap it over after, I doubt they are gonna change the chassis mounts

Jack

22nd Jun 2011 8:00pm

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