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Adam17

Member Since: 15 May 2018
Location: Within Bedfordshire
Posts: 1193

Wet driver side mat.

Hi all.

I knew I had an issue with damp mats but the other day I knelt on the floor to lean across the driver seat and I got a very soggy knee!!! It seems its getting worse.

I got in touch with LRO mag who suggested stripping off the dash and pouring water/hose down the front to see where the water is coming from.. As The Duchess is my daily, I didn't fancy stripping out the dash...

Is there any problem/specific areas I can check before going to the length of stripping it to a shell?

I have a 2004 110 xs TD5

Click image to enlarge Regards
Adam

Loving The Duchess
The Defender 110 TD5 XS

My Defender story - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic64005.html

30th Oct 2018 1:55pm

Grenadier

Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: The foot of Mont Blanc...
Posts: 5829

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey

Had the same problem. Mine stemmed from a small unplugged hole on the bulk head, just under the dash, towards the door side. Almost by the middle internal hinge. You have to get in and amongst the pedals and look up to see it. Blocked it up, no water. I think this was occasionally exacerbated by a small leak through the windscreen to bulkhead seal, where rain collected in the sponge, transferred to the bolts under the windscreen blocks, trickled inside and down the lower half of the a-pillar. I’ve reproofed the seal, and cleaned and treated the bolts, water transfer and condensation seems to have stopped.

Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

30th Oct 2018 1:59pm

Adam17

Member Since: 15 May 2018
Location: Within Bedfordshire
Posts: 1193

Ah, Thank you very much. I think my next weekend off will be spent digging about. Thank you.

Regards
Adam

Loving The Duchess
The Defender 110 TD5 XS

My Defender story - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic64005.html

30th Oct 2018 2:23pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

water lngress manual see links below

https://1drv.ms/b/s!AtZSoWFHDgnGhEXR_LnW7L0tyDit

https://1drv.ms/b/s!AtZSoWFHDgnGhERwdB-0XcdTS_UI

30th Oct 2018 3:31pm

Hal

Member Since: 04 Jun 2014
Location: Bedford
Posts: 91

Do the easy check first. Take the mat out, shut the door and hose around the door seal. Get in the passenger side and look for water.

I only had to replace the door seal (less than £20) to get a completely dry cabin.

This bloke from Yorkshire is brilliant BTW

30th Oct 2018 3:52pm

Adam17

Member Since: 15 May 2018
Location: Within Bedfordshire
Posts: 1193

dorsetsmith wrote:
water lngress manual see links below

https://1drv.ms/b/s!AtZSoWFHDgnGhEXR_LnW7L0tyDit

https://1drv.ms/b/s!AtZSoWFHDgnGhERwdB-0XcdTS_UI

Thank you so much!!!! Regards
Adam

Loving The Duchess
The Defender 110 TD5 XS

My Defender story - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic64005.html

30th Oct 2018 4:12pm

Adam17

Member Since: 15 May 2018
Location: Within Bedfordshire
Posts: 1193

Hal wrote:
Do the easy check first. Take the mat out, shut the door and hose around the door seal. Get in the passenger side and look for water.

I only had to replace the door seal (less than £20) to get a completely dry cabin.

Ah good idea. Thank you. Regards
Adam

Loving The Duchess
The Defender 110 TD5 XS

My Defender story - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic64005.html

30th Oct 2018 4:13pm

kmac

Member Since: 07 Oct 2009
Location: Middlesex
Posts: 1309

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

Grenadier wrote:
I’ve reproofed the seal, and cleaned and treated the bolts, water transfer and condensation seems to have stopped.

What did you re-proof the seal with?

31st Oct 2018 9:15am

jeffersj

Member Since: 23 Jan 2015
Location: Near Preston
Posts: 431

1996 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Bronze Green

There is a small drain hole in the gutter just above the centre of the Passenger door which seems unnecessary as the gutter ends a few inches away so I plugged this hole with sealant to stop water dripping straight down the passenger door. Jeff
Ex 1968 Series 2A
Ex 90 TD5
Ex D3
Ex D4

31st Oct 2018 10:17am

Adam17

Member Since: 15 May 2018
Location: Within Bedfordshire
Posts: 1193

Thanks for all the advice gents, that'll keep me busy over the weekend.. Regards
Adam

Loving The Duchess
The Defender 110 TD5 XS

My Defender story - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic64005.html

31st Oct 2018 10:50am

Grenadier

Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: The foot of Mont Blanc...
Posts: 5829

kmac wrote:
Grenadier wrote:
I’ve reproofed the seal, and cleaned and treated the bolts, water transfer and condensation seems to have stopped.

What did you re-proof the seal with?

I cleaned the window frame and fake-vent section to remove all grime, dirt, oil etc and then applied a strip of transparent anti-stone-chip protector across the full width and wrapped round each edge. Working so far and pretty much invisible against the paint, Corris Grey

I got a strip from a mate, but this is the stuff.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Scotchgard-Clear-...B004VG88MQ Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

31st Oct 2018 11:32am

kmac

Member Since: 07 Oct 2009
Location: Middlesex
Posts: 1309

Thanks Grenadier

31st Oct 2018 3:41pm

excossack

Member Since: 22 Feb 2012
Location: North West
Posts: 5851

1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue

For me, I think the rain comes in via the bottom of the door card, leaking out and then onto the foam lining of the mat and then wicking across the mat. 1999 Defender TD5 110

Regards
John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock

31st Oct 2018 3:43pm

Adam17

Member Since: 15 May 2018
Location: Within Bedfordshire
Posts: 1193

I have also found that the water is up behind the pedals in the plastic foam stuff..

Again, thanks for all the help peoples. Regards
Adam

Loving The Duchess
The Defender 110 TD5 XS

My Defender story - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic64005.html

31st Oct 2018 3:47pm

landy andy

Member Since: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Ware, Herts
Posts: 5729

2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver

On a previous Td5 Def I had water behind pedals, was holes in bulkhead above your feet. They seal them with small circles of sticky tape. That get old and fall off.

Worth a check. Nice and easy to fix.

Andy

31st Oct 2018 8:39pm

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