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| Kez Member Since: 11 Apr 2011 Location: UK Posts: 271  
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Noticed a tinny rattling sound over last day, almost like a lose exhaust clamp, only happens at 1,400rpm but was driving me mad. Found the cause, it a factor in some kind of steel bracket (?) runs above exhaust and under alternator - have marked it with arrow - you can see fracture which is hidden under alternator at other end of bracket in bottom pic BUT photo my be wrong way up as was taken at a weird angle in iPhone.
What does the bracket do and should I be worried. Have 'fixed' rattle simply by packing it at the broken end, but clearly if its supposed to be doing a job that is hardly going to help in the long run. Any advice welcome  Click image to enlarge |
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26th Apr 2011 5:33pm |
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| Kez Member Since: 11 Apr 2011 Location: UK Posts: 271
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Cheers Fifth Horseman (dread to think how that name came about !) I did wonder what it was for - so do i also have a heat shield missing too
 Guess I need to see what a 'normal' engine looks like so I can compare - if anyone out there could take a pic of their bracket I would be really grateful |
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26th Apr 2011 7:31pm |
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| Fifth Horseman Member Since: 08 Mar 2011 Location: Lanarkshire Posts: 322  
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The name has Terry Pratchett connections (Thief of Time) - long story.
The main parts are 1 Bracket LWQ500190 approx £5 2 Manifold heatshield JPY500060 approx £22 3 Cat heatshield WEB500670 approx £9 Bit dark to take a photo at the moment so hope this diagram helps.  Click image to enlarge Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated  |
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26th Apr 2011 8:37pm |
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| Kez Member Since: 11 Apr 2011 Location: UK Posts: 271
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Thanks mate, you have no idea how helpful that is, really appreciate it!
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27th Apr 2011 5:22am |
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| WelshGas Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Vale of Glamorgan Posts: 935  
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Hi Kez, another early riser I see!!!
Judging by the photo you do not have the Turbo heatshield that sits to the rear of the alternator, covering the Turbo. Large, shaped and rippled silver cover over the turbo.  |
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27th Apr 2011 5:31am |
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| Kez Member Since: 11 Apr 2011 Location: UK Posts: 271
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Yeh, I spotted that WelshGas, wonder where it went. Having said that can't have been doing that much as apart from the now silenced rattle, no other effects. I have a sheet of proper heat shield material so will knock up something when i get a moment just in case. Time for coffee
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27th Apr 2011 5:41am |
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| Fifth Horseman Member Since: 08 Mar 2011 Location: Lanarkshire Posts: 322
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this is what it normally looks like (I've moved the breather pipe to make things clearer)
Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated |
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28th Apr 2011 4:37pm |
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| Kez Member Since: 11 Apr 2011 Location: UK Posts: 271
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Cheers Fifth Horseman , thats really helpful.
I must admit I am slightly overwhelmed by the helpfulness of people on this forum. There is a really nice feeling to the place, over the years I have been involved one way or another with quite a few automotive groups, and I really do think the members here are in a league of their own. Thanks again mate, Kez |
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28th Apr 2011 7:21pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6295  
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can anyone advise where I can get some of the above parts on-line asap (bracket and bolts) as indicated by fifth horseman ?
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21st Jan 2013 3:05pm |
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| Go Beyond Member Since: 30 Jan 2012 Location: Headcorn, Kent Posts: 6678
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Try Dan at Duckworths (a sponsor on here) - Free carriage to forum members
danroberts@duckworthlandrover.co.uk |
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21st Jan 2013 3:08pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6295
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thanks go beyond.
does anyone have an illustration of whats behind the heat shield? the reason I ask is bolt number 6 thats prone to falling out fixes 3 items together the best I can tell (heat shild hanger, manifold and in the middle some other heavy metal bracket?) as the heavy metal bracket doesn't line up with manifold hole I'll like to see what it's connected to so I can see how to adjust it. many thanks. |
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22nd Jan 2013 11:58am |
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| Charlie Spitfire Member Since: 16 May 2015 Location: Chartres Posts: 55  
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On my Defender the heat shield, the metal strip it attaches too, and the bolt that holds the metal strip and catalytic converter in place are all missing. Do I need to replace them? I mean what does this heat shield actually do?
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12th Aug 2015 9:43am |
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| Rickydodah Member Since: 14 Jul 2014 Location: East Sussex Posts: 1091 |
"I mean what does this heat shield actually do?"
Is this a trick question Charlie?  I started with nothing and still have most of it left! |
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12th Aug 2015 5:02pm |
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| Charlie Spitfire Member Since: 16 May 2015 Location: Chartres Posts: 55
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No its a serious question. Considering that the heat shield rattles, that the mounting plate snaps and the bolts holding it all together fall out (see above comments) I am wondering what the penalty is for not having the heatshield attached? My best guess is a loss in HP as the engine air intake is hotter and more expanded, but then I am just learning about engines, so really I dont know.
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12th Aug 2015 5:11pm |
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