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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816   
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^^ Well spotted. That’s one thing from the classic Defender they carried over on the new model. Maybe the only one.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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9th May 2019 6:17pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018  
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9th May 2019 6:24pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4209 
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And there looks to be quite a bit of scope to fit smaller rims. I won’t go as far as to say 16”s will fit, but maybe there is hope for 17”s. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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9th May 2019 6:32pm |
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| seriesonenut Member Since: 19 Nov 2014 Location: Essex Posts: 1211
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So why cant we just see it now?
Talk about nervous launch......drip drip drip 2010 XS USW 1957 Series One 88 diesel 1958 Series One 88 4x2 |
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9th May 2019 6:33pm |
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| NMBRPL8 Member Since: 07 Jul 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 146 
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Looks like they have developed new wiper arms, too.
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9th May 2019 6:37pm |
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| Sulisuli Member Since: 30 Oct 2016 Location: South west Posts: 4795 
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I don’t dislike it however I may when I see it for real
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9th May 2019 8:03pm |
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| milesr3 Member Since: 12 Feb 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 873 
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Looks a lot like a RRS with a square back end.
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9th May 2019 9:17pm |
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| mikelike Member Since: 31 Aug 2011 Location: new zealand Posts: 108 |
Ralf Speth says " Defender won't be an easy launch '' when talking about a recovery plan !
The C E O has come out publicly admitting this , Like DUH ! Maybe because it does not resemble a modern Defender , the icon that created a brand ! It is another suv , this is an epic fail ! Plough the internet people , nothing but negative everywhere . |
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9th May 2019 11:40pm |
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| 100inch Member Since: 15 May 2012 Location: Brunswick Posts: 411 
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Has someone any ideas if the wheel arches are flexible/ removable? To me this one of the best (aka cost saving!) features on the Defender. m
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10th May 2019 6:31am |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 
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I'd say the reaction online is mixed, but not overwhelmingly negative. I've seen a lot of comments about how it's a real Defender because "it has a roof gutter" which makes no sense whatsoever to me.
I put some of my thoughts here - At this point though I think I'm going to leave the conversation, there isn't anything more to say. This vehicle is nothing like what I hoped for, but nothing I or anyone else says will stop it going into production or make JLR reconsider their choice of direction. The future for JLR will be whatever it is, but I see no point commenting further. They didn't listen... 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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10th May 2019 7:17am |
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| tookaphotoof Member Since: 18 Mar 2013 Location: dordrecht Posts: 1279  
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Haven't watched the vid, but do have to say I'm getting a bit tired about all the negative complaints of people about it. None of us have seen it without all the camouflage and none of us have driven it already.
I don't think JLR are doing too well at the moment. Any of the complainers think they'd survive if they keep making the Defender as it was? If you only go to social events with like minded Series / Defender fanboys you'd say they made a stupid move, but real world is hardly anyone likes a noisy, leaking vehicle. I drive a Defender and a Caterham. None of my friends would ever buy these cars.  |
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10th May 2019 8:33am |
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| NoDo$h Member Since: 18 Aug 2007 Location: Buried in deer guts in Dorset Posts: 972 
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54 Freelander modded for mud 2008 D3 SE 2010 90 XS SW 1978 88 Series 3 undergoing surgery with a new owner 2007 90 County Truck Cab - gone 2006 D3 SE - gone 2004 Freelander Sport - gay 1999 Disco V8 ES rotted to bits |
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10th May 2019 9:22am |
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| edo Member Since: 20 Aug 2018 Location: Devon Posts: 375
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surprised not round headlights in nod to the old car?
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10th May 2019 9:28am |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149
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No, clearly you didnt watch my video... 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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10th May 2019 10:26am |
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