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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 23 May 2007
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My 1996 90 has a glass pop out roof and that has never leaked but if I don’t mop it dry before driving off on a cool morning I get freezing Niagara Falls dropping down the back of my neck the first bump I drive over Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #816307 21st Feb 2020 1:44pm
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RDR



Member Since: 27 Apr 2018
Location: Derbyshire
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Zed wrote:
ken wrote:
J77 wrote:
The options ain’t great either, they are all in packs. I can’t have the meridian sound system without taking a host of stuff I don’t want and I can’t take the jump seat if I take the comfort pack to get the sound system. Heated steering wheel? Sorry you need to take the cold climate pack.


Packs are because of C02 stuff or every possibility would have to be documented for final C02 blame the ecomentalists not JLR



Whilst one can never underestimate JLR's incompetence it's extremely unlikely they are unable to calculate 'C02 stuff'. Far more likey they offer packs which ommit certain options in order to upsell.



I had a nightmare with my last D4 always specd rear aircon for the dogs but they couldn’t do it on the last one because of weight And co2 emissions. Turns out it was deleted because of the new DEF systems additional weight. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
Post #816316 21st Feb 2020 3:10pm
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Buran



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@RDR

Sorry mate, don’t get me wrong - but missing aircon for dogs hardly seems like a “nightmare”... or it is just the matter of British verbal exaggaration? Cool Rolling with laughter Embarassed NHF?

Makes me wonder if actually 95% of the “incompetent JLR fu**-ups and breakdowns” are little things. And not exactly the kind of stuff that get you stranded in the middle of nowhere.

And precisely the latter is the only thing that I’m worried about.
Post #816342 21st Feb 2020 6:47pm
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RDR



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Nightmare as in the ordering process was. I was on the cutover between my15 and 16 my order sheet had it specd and accounted for then they called saying Land Rover wouldn’t let me have it. 3 weeks of backwards and forwards to get to the bottom of it as the dealer couldn’t fathom it either.

To me personally it was indeed important, it’s a great feature especially if you have dogs. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
Post #816348 21st Feb 2020 7:35pm
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Buran



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Well ok, I get it. Thats some ridiculous sales policy right there...
Post #816357 21st Feb 2020 9:22pm
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J77



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The 18” alloys don’t look too bad


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The 90 without the coloured panel


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Post #816422 22nd Feb 2020 3:47pm
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Grouse



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The 110 looks fantastic - unfortunately the 90 looks like a Vitara
Post #816428 22nd Feb 2020 4:45pm
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markb110



Member Since: 22 May 2010
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England 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
Nice to see the 90 without the stick on rear panel blocking the view from the rear passenger seats...
Post #816429 22nd Feb 2020 4:53pm
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Is there a photo from the inside showing that it actually does block the view or is the inside a plastic trim piece like the 110?
Post #816436 22nd Feb 2020 5:41pm
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J77



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Grouse wrote:
The 110 looks fantastic - unfortunately the 90 looks like a Vitara


90 looks Cool


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Post #816437 22nd Feb 2020 5:43pm
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J77



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Supacat wrote:
Is there a photo from the inside showing that it actually does block the view or is the inside a plastic trim piece like the 110?


Looks like it blocks a fair bit.


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Post #816438 22nd Feb 2020 5:50pm
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Zed



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
What does the silly looking plastic square do? WARNING.
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Post #816441 22nd Feb 2020 5:59pm
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J77



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On the 110 it’s structural on the 90 absolutely nothing.
Post #816443 22nd Feb 2020 6:01pm
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Zed



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
It looks like a proper bodge job to me. WARNING.
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Post #816454 22nd Feb 2020 7:46pm
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lohr500



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
If the best they could come up with to improve the structural rigidity was to obscure most of the view from the rear seats, then it is absolutely disgraceful. What on earth are they thinking about? It seems completely bonkers to me.
Is this symptomatic of a desperate rush to get something to market even though it makes no sense whatsoever?
Post #816455 22nd Feb 2020 8:04pm
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