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RDR



Member Since: 27 Apr 2018
Location: Derbyshire
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Love the steel wheels definitely going to consider for mine. Very Happy 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
Post #816010 19th Feb 2020 4:02pm
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Smilesapart



Member Since: 28 Sep 2013
Location: Suffolk
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I like it better with the Steel wheels. However I’m quite alarmed at how huge it is when stood next to that 90 in the street!!! Mahoosive!!!! But I hope it’s a huge success. I’m just so irritated by the high prices so I won’t be getting one anytime soon
Post #816011 19th Feb 2020 4:10pm
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J77



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The options ain’t great either, they are all in packs. I can’t have the meridian sound system without taking a host of stuff I don’t want and I can’t take the jump seat if I take the comfort pack to get the sound system. Heated steering wheel? Sorry you need to take the cold climate pack.
Post #816023 19th Feb 2020 5:51pm
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Mike c



Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
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England 2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Belize Green
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Post #816024 19th Feb 2020 5:53pm
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J77



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When’s it launched? Razz
Post #816025 19th Feb 2020 5:55pm
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J77



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Post #816195 20th Feb 2020 7:39pm
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pbhawkin



Member Since: 12 Jan 2020
Location: Mudgee, NSW
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Quote:
The options ain’t great either

Agree.
WHY can't I have the HUD option on the SE model?
WHY do I have to have a sunroof on the HSE and can't get a solid roof option (that I can get in White if I want)? Besides Sunroofs ALL leak here in Australia after a few years as the seals die with the 40 degree days and -5 nights (where I live).
WHY can't I have HSE in Diesel?
WHY do they force EU emission standards on cars sold in Non-EU countries (Ad Blue and DPF for a start)?
WHY is the PHEV version availability not announced?
Why does the 6cyl petrol not shut off 2, 3 or even 4 cylinders when cruising (Alfa does it with the Ferrari 6cyl engine in the Stelvio)?
Post #816242 21st Feb 2020 5:53am
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skyrover



Member Since: 14 Feb 2014
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Sorry, it's just not growing on me. The design is mediocre, and that's before it's mechanical inadequacies.

Back to the drawing board land rover, this is not a Defender.
Post #816253 21st Feb 2020 7:50am
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Supacat



Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
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They're all good questions ~ if you want answers why not ask some of the senior management at JLR:


@NickRogersJLR - Nick Rogers, Engineering Director
@theragers - Richard Agnew, Land Rover Comms & PR Director
@gavinjprice - Gavin J. Price, Chief Engineer at JLR
@nealmg1 - Neal Gibson, Chassis Senior Manager at Jaguar Landrover
@jlremc - Official page for Jaguar Land Rover's world-class Engine Manufacturing Centre
@McCons - Ken Mc Conomy, PR guy at Jaguar Land Rover
Post #816254 21st Feb 2020 8:06am
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ken



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J77 wrote:
The options ain’t great either, they are all in packs. I can’t have the meridian sound system without taking a host of stuff I don’t want and I can’t take the jump seat if I take the comfort pack to get the sound system. Heated steering wheel? Sorry you need to take the cold climate pack.


Packs are because of C02 stuff or every possibility would have to be documented for final C02 blame the ecomentalists not JLR
Post #816255 21st Feb 2020 8:13am
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Tim in Scotland



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I would love to know who had the madcap idea to put a fabric sunroof on 90 First Edition cars in the UK - not just a security issue but also a cause of condensation inside a cabin loaded with electronics that need to be kept dry. In current weather conditions across the UK I’m sure it would also soon leak Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #816256 21st Feb 2020 8:22am
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Zed



Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
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ken wrote:
J77 wrote:
The options ain’t great either, they are all in packs. I can’t have the meridian sound system without taking a host of stuff I don’t want and I can’t take the jump seat if I take the comfort pack to get the sound system. Heated steering wheel? Sorry you need to take the cold climate pack.


Packs are because of C02 stuff or every possibility would have to be documented for final C02 blame the ecomentalists not JLR



Whilst one can never underestimate JLR's incompetence it's extremely unlikely they are unable to calculate 'C02 stuff'. Far more likey they offer packs which ommit certain options in order to upsell. WARNING.
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Post #816268 21st Feb 2020 8:55am
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Supacat



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Tim in Scotland wrote:
I would love to know who had the madcap idea to put a fabric sunroof on 90 First Edition cars in the UK - not just a security issue but also a cause of condensation inside a cabin loaded with electronics that need to be kept dry. In current weather conditions across the UK I’m sure it would also soon leak


My Mrs runs a Smart cabriolet and it has never suffered any form of condensation or water leak. It appears to be double skinned or lined. It is world's apart from my old LR ragtop, but I imagine JRL have access to this same "modern" tech. I might go so far to say it could be a better solution than a panoramic roof?
Post #816279 21st Feb 2020 10:04am
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ken



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Fiat 500 options for instance are / where reported as over 1 million combinations packs reduce this the fines for miss reporting Co2 are lets say rather large
Post #816280 21st Feb 2020 10:05am
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J77



Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
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Tim in Scotland wrote:
I would love to know who had the madcap idea to put a fabric sunroof on 90 First Edition cars in the UK - not just a security issue but also a cause of condensation inside a cabin loaded with electronics that need to be kept dry. In current weather conditions across the UK I’m sure it would also soon leak


Retract the canvas roof and get a wet head with all the water rushing off Laughing

It’s an option I fancied as well.
Post #816306 21st Feb 2020 1:20pm
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