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| Julie Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: Nantes Posts: 502   
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Well, I'm just wondering why the "outer" spline is fully corroded while the "inner" spline at the MK82 has no visible rust.
This is what I learned taking a closer look at the old part LR030054 from my Land. And I'm also wondering what kind of a spline JLR integrate in their 70th Edition V8 Defenders these days 5 litre V8 engine , 405 PS - do they also use part LR030054 and the original shaft between MK82 and the transfer unit? https://www.landrover.com/explore-land-rov...derv8.html JLR integrated an 8 speed ZF automatic transmission and surely have skipped that silly shaft ... https://www.landrover.fr/explore-land-rove...405ch.html And no EGR knocks while leaving the car: |
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9th Jun 2018 7:49am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 
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This shaft is a particular feature of marrying up the MT82 6 speed manual to the LR transfer box. The 70th is auto only and won't require it. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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9th Jun 2018 8:52am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6308  
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/\ FANTASIC !
The Ashcroft solution might work but I suspect the above solution might be better  (albeit, it is slightly more expensive) |
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9th Jun 2018 9:45am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6308
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good to meet you yesterday. knocking all gone - adapter shaft sorted it or is there still play elsewhere? |
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10th Jun 2018 9:35am |
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| nosnibod Member Since: 15 Aug 2007 Location: West Midlands Posts: 370 
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Great to meet you too.
All sorted. Minimal backlash and drives beautifully! I’ll post some pictures later. Dave Green Goddess - 1998 Defender 110 300tdi |
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10th Jun 2018 9:51am |
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| nosnibod Member Since: 15 Aug 2007 Location: West Midlands Posts: 370
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Team IRB did an excellent job replacing the output shaft yesterday.
Just to recap - a slight clonk changing gear sometimes was the only symptom... So this was a preventative maintenance session in reality - and to put my mind at ease before some lengthy trips towing the caravan. Before - notice how clean everything looks - no signs of a problem at all:-  Click image to enlarge During - shroud and rubber seal removed - a slight hint of corrosion:- Click image to enlarge During - uh ho:- Click image to enlarge Loads of rust but just some congealed grease visible. Click image to enlarge Splines about 50% worn - which in reality means failure could be imminent:- Click image to enlarge Shiny new bits being prepared and fitted properly this time:- Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Net result - about as good as it gets with this transmission setup. I already have the one-piece rear half shafts and the front and rear diffs are in very good condition too. Overall, very happy indeed. PS The danger with visiting IRB is what your wallet gets up to when you aren't paying attention and your guard is down. For some reason I was sitting very comfortably indeed on the way home... Dave Green Goddess - 1998 Defender 110 300tdi |
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10th Jun 2018 9:21pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6308
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anything to do with all that leather under your bum ?
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10th Jun 2018 9:28pm |
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| nosnibod Member Since: 15 Aug 2007 Location: West Midlands Posts: 370
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Might do
 Dave
Green Goddess - 1998 Defender 110 300tdi |
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10th Jun 2018 9:31pm |
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| desender Member Since: 06 Aug 2017 Location: Perthshire Posts: 34  
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My 07 Puma had early signs of the clutch death rattle and had it replaced toghether with the ashcroft shaft upgrade.
It was actually the first time in my life that I had someone else work on my car. I'm a happy camper now that I know the shaft and clutch will probably not fail on me the next 40.000 miles! |
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10th Jun 2018 9:35pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720 
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I did the same last year. I considered doing it myself, but decided it was going to be too much hassle for the sake of paying someone £350 in labour. |
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10th Jun 2018 10:45pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720
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The 70'th is basically a complete Range Rover sport drive train shoe horned into a Defender. |
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10th Jun 2018 10:46pm |
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| nosnibod Member Since: 15 Aug 2007 Location: West Midlands Posts: 370
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This is the moment that the coupling was separated - Warning - contains scenes of a disturbing nature:-
Click image to enlarge Yes, that is a rust cloud... Dave Green Goddess - 1998 Defender 110 300tdi |
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11th Jun 2018 6:33am |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7907 
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I was just looking at this on IRB page on FB, quite disturbing! Interesting that IRB fit OEM shafts in 90% of situations, with correct grease and only Ashcroft shaft in 10%.
Should get mine back Wednesday all going well. James MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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11th Jun 2018 12:29pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720
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It probably just depends what the customer is willing to pay and asks for.
The Ashcroft kit actually contains a genuine shaft and cup as I remember, it just has a slot spark eroded into it to let the oil through. Then a specially made housing to keep the oil in. The grease would probably work if it's thick enough and the cover to keep the water out and grease in is up to the job. I went for the Ashcroft kit as it was more of a belt and braces approach I thought. |
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11th Jun 2018 2:40pm |
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