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jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8021 |
BFG AT in my experience. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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10th Dec 2017 3:57pm |
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Sulisuli Member Since: 30 Oct 2016 Location: South west Posts: 4795 |
As James says 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90 2000 XS TD5 90 |
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10th Dec 2017 4:00pm |
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miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1763 |
Best best will be something with studs. Best and UK road legal is going to be a Nokian Hakkepellita (or however it's spelt!!)
A proper snow tyre has more silicates in the rubber to keep it soft at lower temperatures, and more siping to clear standing water. An AT is good, but not as good as a winter. In terms of markings, M+S rating is pretty good, but more of an all season, a proper winter tyre has the TPMSF (Three peak mountain snowflake or something) symbol on it. |
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10th Dec 2017 4:09pm |
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dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
BFG KO in snow and ice & GG AT2 Snowflake winter rated have try they out in snow
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10th Dec 2017 4:15pm |
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UtilityTruck Member Since: 09 Jan 2014 Location: Oxford Posts: 463 |
I'm aware of the mountain/snowflake winter specification- it just feels like at some point shouldn't an AT (no matter how good a compound or how many sipes etc) become packed with snow and ineffective? Perhaps they're able to shed snow fast enough unlike mud... 2014 Keswick Utility 2.2
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10th Dec 2017 4:15pm |
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ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816 |
I once was lucky enough to follow a car on a snow covered road which had winter tires, but which after a a flat tire had to replace one of its rear wheels by the full size spare with a very good summer tire on. So one side a winter tire, the other a almost new summer tire. That was a real eye opener, confirms the value of real winter tires. The view on the winter tire remained completely black, it dispelled of all the snow from its sipes easily with every turn, ready to bite into the white stuff which each next turn of the wheel. In contrast, the summer tire looked entirely white, snow just sticking on to it.
Nokian Hakkapeliitta LT2 in 235/85-16 size is most likely the best choice you can make for a Defender. Good reason that here in Switzerland these Nokians on genuine HD Wolf wheels were an official Land Rover accessory as long as the Defender was for sale. Finished now. My Nokians LT (so the first version) are 8 years old now, never missed a beat, still have 10 mm profile. Most likely will replace them in the fall of 2018 by a new set of LT2's as next winter onward we will be spending much more time driving in the snow and in real winter conditions than we do nowadays. Occasionally may even need chains, have those ready too. Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw Last edited by ericvv on 11th Dec 2017 2:46am. Edited 2 times in total |
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10th Dec 2017 4:49pm |
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Mdm Member Since: 11 Sep 2013 Location: Sunny Lancashire Posts: 1599 |
as per james or a good winter tyre
muds are great in deeper snow but not the mixed conditions we get these days |
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10th Dec 2017 5:03pm |
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camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3372 |
Have run at ko2 and mud km2, ko2 wins easily, on Ice even more so
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10th Dec 2017 7:25pm |
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custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20347 |
BFG AT.
KM2 as I have no excellent for all things inc soft snow, but big failiures on ice which of course is not their designated purpose anyway. Overall I'd still stick with KM2, but for the exact purpose you mention KO2 $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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10th Dec 2017 7:50pm |
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JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7905 |
We didn't get much snow today, mostly slushy but some hard compacted snow ⛄ but I was very impressed how my KO2's performed, felt very reassuring. James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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10th Dec 2017 8:41pm |
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johnszs Member Since: 16 Aug 2010 Location: Hereford Posts: 459 |
In the 8" deeper in some parts of snow parts of hereford has had today, i can say my 275 70 18 cooper discoverer st maxx were great in fresh snow, but not as good as my old 235 85 16 cooper discoverer stt's.
Tonight on a side road i struggled to get grip with the diff lock in, front atb and rear locker at times, mainly due to it been so icey and trying to go in ruts which were at least 12" deep. I feel on standard size wheels i could of made by far better progress. But on the up side they are studdable if it gets worse 2004 TD5 Defender 90 xs station wagon |
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10th Dec 2017 8:56pm |
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Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3282 |
Another vote for Nokian Hakkapeliitta.
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10th Dec 2017 9:14pm |
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Pilgrimmick Member Since: 16 Nov 2015 Location: Highlands Posts: 582 |
Something thin! 80" 1948
Lightweight V8 Bowler Tomcat 130 Station wagon 90 300tdi (Santana PS10 pick up) Range Rover L322 (Ful fat) |
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11th Dec 2017 10:45am |
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Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897 |
My BFG MTs cope very well.
It's as much the driving technique as the tyre tread on snow. |
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11th Dec 2017 11:07am |
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