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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720   
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There's not real reason why not. But the question would be why bother? if you're running wires to the back of the head light for the LED bar then you may as well just tap into the red bison loom and get a cleaner power source to the LED bar. It'll also avoid putting more load on the switch - albeit an LED bar having a much smaller load than the headlamps.
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5th Oct 2017 11:14am |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1763 
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You don't want the led bar coming on with main beams, should be switched separately.
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5th Oct 2017 12:13pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20342
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^^^^ That is a choice. Mine is switch by main. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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5th Oct 2017 12:28pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1763
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From what I've read on here, I was under the impression that e marking was required for main beams?
Either way, I prefer the control of having the big LED's switched separately, they're a bit offensive for a "thank you" flash!! |
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5th Oct 2017 12:30pm |
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| Harry.O Member Since: 25 Jul 2014 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 713 
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^^^ My understanding is that they need to be e-marked if not independently switched as well.
My light bar which is not e-marked, is wired into the full beams (via a relay) but with a switch to turn it off also. 2005 Td5 110 Hardtop 1989 300Tdi 90 Soft top 1992 200Tdi 90 Truck cab with Land Cruiser axles |
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5th Oct 2017 1:03pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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Lights that are wired to come on with the main beam are still auxiliary lights, rather than becoming main beam themselves. This is irrelevant when it comes to E marking though, as any light that's used on the road should be E marked, regardless of how they're wired. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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5th Oct 2017 1:12pm |
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| Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2640 
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i have a headlight loom (cant remember which but it has ceramic plugs)...
i just spliced into the high beam from that for my Lazer rs8 which is on the a Bar, - i believe this is legal etc... The triple R on the rack is via a LR aux light switch on the dash... |
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5th Oct 2017 1:14pm |
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| Harry.O Member Since: 25 Jul 2014 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 713
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Thanks LandRoverAnorak, does that mean for the purposes of legality, as long as the light is switched off whilst on the road, it doesn't need to be E marked? 2005 Td5 110 Hardtop 1989 300Tdi 90 Soft top 1992 200Tdi 90 Truck cab with Land Cruiser axles |
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5th Oct 2017 1:44pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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Yes, that's how I understand it. You'll sometimes see lights marked 'for off road use only' and clearly it'd be impractical to physically remove them when driving out onto a road, so use of them becomes the deciding factor rather than just fitted.
As an aside, it's also illegal to have independently switched spotlights (or LED's, etc). All forward facing auxiliary lights should be wired to automatically extinguish with the main beam. Isolating switches to prevent them coming on at all are obviously ok, though. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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5th Oct 2017 1:56pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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For driving lights to be road legal they have to carry a GENUINE E mark and be wired correctly
For off road use the lights do not have to carry a genuine E mark and they do not have to be wired through the main beam. Additional or optional headlights have to be wired through the main beam.. You can also have the optional lights on a separate switch so they do not come on automatically with main beam BUT they must go off when main beam is switched on. Now a lot of people do NOT understand what a genuine E mark looks like. A capital E with a number in a circle is NOT the E mark. That represents the country which has done the approval. There is a lot more to a genuine approval mark then just the country which has done the approval. For a start the approval number must be shown. For driving lights there is a legal requirement to show a code showing what type of light function it is, if the lens is plastic, the peak beam reference number. This photograph shows the genuine approval mark on a LED Lightbar which we will fit to one of our vehicles.  Click image to enlarge This photograph shows the genuine approval mark on one of a pair of LED spotlights which we will fit on the same vehicle Click image to enlarge Now it will be perfectly legal for us to use either the LED lightbar combined with main beam of the headlights or the LED spots with the main beam of the headlights. However it will be illegal to have both the LED lightbar AND the LED spotlights in combination with the headlights Brendan |
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5th Oct 2017 8:03pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20342
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Brendan - How about banked light bars?
For example not a twin small pair side by side but one above another on an A bar? I have seen some on a roof light bar before like this, but I have a lower mount option on mine and an upper. I'd quite like to have two really. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R ๐ฌ๐ง๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ฎ๐ช๐บ๐ธโฝ๏ธ๐ข๏ธโ๏ธ๐งฐ๐ช |
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5th Oct 2017 8:49pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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I can not see a reason why you can not use banked lights.
However for road use they would have to have a genuine approval mark and wired correctly. See the examples on my earlier photograph. Also you must not exceed the maximum peak beam reference number total It would not be road legal to use two of the LED light bars that I have photographed earlier despite them having genuine approval marks and being wired through the main beam switch as we would exceed the maximum number. Brendan |
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6th Oct 2017 8:06am |
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| Coatesyyy Member Since: 07 Sep 2017 Location: Knutsford Posts: 423
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+1 |
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6th Oct 2017 8:31am |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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For off road use ONLY you can switch your lights anyway you like and the lights do not have to carry any approval markings.
For on road use optional/additional main beam lights MUST switch off when the standard main beam headlights are switched to dip beam. You can have a on/off switch to optional main beam lights wired from the standard main beam live wire. This would make the optional main beam lights go off when the standard main beam goes to dip. This would give you the option of having or not having optional main beam lights on with standard main beam. Brendan |
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6th Oct 2017 9:53am |
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