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| SecaBlue Member Since: 14 Jun 2017 Location: Malmo Posts: 9   
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I see the sticky about the 2.2lt, and how it briefly mentions the 'recommended by Ford' Engine oil to be "WSS-M2C913-B (or C) standard" and many say Castrol Magnatec Professional 5W30 A1 (B2/B5) is the only one... but...
I recently had my neighbour assist me with an Oil Change (my engine has done 63000 miles), and after he 'accessed' Ford's system to get the specs needed, he sourced Champion Fully Synthetic 5w40 which he says "exceeds Ford wss-m2c917a and asea c3-10". I sort of trusted him, as he has renovated old cars and engines for 40yrs, but everything I have read says that the 2.4lt Puma should be ASEA A or B, and only the 2.2lt should use C. And what concerns me is when I read here: http://www.oilspecifications.org/ford.php that it says 917A is "engine oil for pump injector diesel engines.". Is this correct, and am I currently damaging my engine using the oil he has used? How does the A,B, and C value affect the engine that does or does not have the DPF? Thanks heaps in advance! Andrew. 2008, 2.4 Puma 110, Silver, 7 seats, sunroof, Winter pack, not enough mud on it! |
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16th Jun 2017 1:46pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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According my dealer the recommended oil for a Puma 2.4 is not good enough for the Puma 2.2 with DPF, but the correct grade for the latter is perfect also for the former.
Just checked a recent invoice which included an engine oil and filter change for my Puma 2.4, and they used Castrol EDGE C1 Professional 5W-30. So they use the Puma 2.2 with DPF oil for all the Pumas now. Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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16th Jun 2017 2:16pm |
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| SecaBlue Member Since: 14 Jun 2017 Location: Malmo Posts: 9
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okay... interesting to know. So the DPF dictates the Oil. But anyone know the difference between C1 and C3-10? 2008, 2.4 Puma 110, Silver, 7 seats, sunroof, Winter pack, not enough mud on it!
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19th Jun 2017 11:41am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638  
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yes, the DPF dictates the oil. This because you need an oil which doesn't leave any ash, as this would clog the DPF very quickly.
some more details here: http://www.oilspecifications.org/ford.php -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged 
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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19th Jun 2017 1:18pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804  
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As Naks says, it's the Ash content. I read some articles in the US about using low Ash oil in non-DPF cars and the general consensus is that having low Ash oil in an otherwise compliant engine/oil can only be a good thing. Cleaner, less crud, freer flowing etc. I'll be specifically using the higher grade in my oil change this very weekend because of the low ash qualities. I've given my exhaust pipe a good wire brushing (fnarr, fnarr) to see how dark and sooty it becomes compared with now... Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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19th Jun 2017 1:30pm |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295  
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Hello SecaBlue
Here's Castrols suggestions for your 2008 110, Engine, Transmission, Transfer Box and Differentials with Capacities and Service (Change) Frequencies... http://applications.castrol.com/oilselecto...2007-2011) Good Luck SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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19th Jun 2017 1:36pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638
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of course, the ideal thing to do would be to remove the DPF and also the CAT
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2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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19th Jun 2017 2:05pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804
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I'll be putting on a 'straight-through' first opportunity I have
 Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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19th Jun 2017 2:45pm |
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| SecaBlue Member Since: 14 Jun 2017 Location: Malmo Posts: 9
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Interesting at that link on their webpage, they state "Castrol recommends for your Land Rover Defender, L316 (1990-2016) " listing the Oil as 'A5', when I am sure that 2012 onwards with the 2.2 Puma, you cannot use A5 Oils in your engine??? It has to be 'C' rated Oil as I am discussing here... 2008, 2.4 Puma 110, Silver, 7 seats, sunroof, Winter pack, not enough mud on it! |
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19th Jun 2017 3:06pm |
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| apt100 Member Since: 05 Mar 2015 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1547 
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^^^ I think you need to select 110 Td4 DPF if that is what you have.
Then if you list yourself as a consumer they have no recommendation... http://applications.castrol.com/oilselecto...2011-2016) but if you list yourself as a workshop owner they recommend Castrol Edge Professional C1 5w-30 http://applications.castrol.com/oilselecto...2011-2016) Theoretically trade only, but in the UK you can get from Amazon etc |
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19th Jun 2017 8:29pm |
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