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Riverboy



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Pioneer releasing the first single-DIN unit with Carplay
https://www.carplaylife.com/news/pioneer-a...-reciever/

May be of interest to a lot of people here who dont fancy going down the double din route.
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barbel jim



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Sweet Mr. Green Must admit though I think a double din unit will be more robust. The problem with these type of units is there are more bits to go wrong Whistle It'll also be interesting seeing the UKs pricepoint
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ARC99



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Interesting. Something else to distract the driver while he or she is supposed to be concentrating on the main task of driving and not fiddling with technology. I have heard rumours that driver will be prohibited from operating such things as with mobile phones. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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Farmerben



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Can't see that happening. Have you seen the Tesla or new Velar? Pretty much whole car is operated via a touch screen. https://instagram.com/bentheoandrews
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custom90



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^^^^ This.

However, interesting to see this new model.

The main annoying drawback is the hazard switch obstruction, which is very very annoying.
And you can have nearly all function direct from a phone or similar with many more basic HU's.
Only different is the visual side, but on the whole you cannot ever have visual performance in the move anyway.

I would say it's an alternative to 2 DIN, each has its own characteristics which will suit different people.

I'm running a basic JVC HU fir 49 from Halfords at the momenandit actually sounds better and is more powerful than my Kenwood was.
Probably because it's much much more modern.
I do miss the touch control on the move though, and the GUI, and if course BT in my case at the moment.

But I never have nor ever will use the phone on the move and very very very rarely ever used BY calling on the move either. ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️
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Riverboy



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The whole point of Apple Carplay and Android Auto is to take away the need to touch the screen. Its all or mostly, voice control. Its not yet perfect, but it is getting better with each software update. I've had it in my cars for near on two years and have never felt it was causing a distraction, certainly no more than talking to a passenger or listening to a standard car radio or using a standard satnav.

This new single din model is aimed at cars that cannot be converted to double din and to those who prefer single din for whatever reason. I prefer double din personally. Anyway it was just a heads up as I know there were people here looking for single din slide out models.
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wyvern



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Yikes !!! I only want to listen to the Archers !

its a lot of internet based system that wil be a pain in Cornwall where we have poor phone and G4 signals. Ill stay with the FM and DAB to give me good reception all over the UK - I thought that it may be more driving based with a built in sat nav App, dash cam app and good hands free.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car...VH-3300NEX Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold
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Riverboy



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Mine has a fantastic built in satnav, it all depends on the model. Plus Apple maps of course, which I find pretty good if I'm honest. The Archers are loud and clear in Provence btw via the TuneIn radio app Thumbs Up Laughing We have superb 3G/4G coverage here but no DAB.
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Doc P



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The iPhone 6 has a big enough screen to use as a satnav (stuck to the windscreen with a Ram mount) and Google or Apple maps are good enough apps for me too. Bluetooth connect the phone to the Alpine and it's hands free call answering (won't ring anybody on the move anyway).
I find the only shag is the trailing power lead for the phone to the USB socket on the Alpine unit which gets in the way of the gearstick. If you don't plug it in, the battery's killed in no time.
I too like the look of a double DIN but can't justify the expense/hassle (yet Twisted Evil ).
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meeerrrk



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Thank you for the link! This could be the answer to my problems!

Im not keen on the double din conversion due to the cost and the fact it is non-revisable (with a hole cut in the dash for relocating switches). Im also not so keen on the screen position, viewing satnav etc is a little bit low. I fitted a cheap, used single din fold out screen to test the theory and Im very happy with it, the screen position is great and it doesnt look so flash when parked up and folded away. The hazard switch thing is a drawback I concede, but they fold away so quickly at the touch of a button, its no hard ship. It hasnt caused me an issue yet, fingers crossed I havent needed the hazard switch!

I guess the deal maker / breaker here is going to be cost.

The new version of my Clarion (NZ502e) is around 500 which includes satnav, bluetooth (but sadly no DAB) - so it would need to be cheaper than that. My 90 Project : http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic52774.html
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Vitesse



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Hi. I am going to look into this single din idea with the flip out front. I am looking at using a double din dashboard but with two single din units, one of which is going to be a two way radio. (Long story!!) Hence my interest in this thread. But, I would be keen to know how stable these type of displays are inside a defender with all the vibration etc. Has anyone got a flip out display that can advise if they are any good? I appreciate that it may depend on manufacturer etc. Just interested in other views
Thanks. Brian 2015 90 XS Santorini Black
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custom90



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You'd have no problems with flip out.
I had one for 6 years trouble free. ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️
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Vitesse



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Thank you. Sounds promising. I will try and get my plans sorted. The display will sit higher as the two radio will be underneath. Just need pioneer to launch the product now! Rolling Eyes 2015 90 XS Santorini Black
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meeerrrk



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Yes I have a single din fold out and it's great,
No problem with vibration, in fact the cd never skips and in my old unit it did skip, so actually better! My 90 Project : http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic52774.html
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Si



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I am also waiting for the european/uk version of this unit. Heres hoping it gets released soon!
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