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bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

Another alternative is to use the Peugeot jets that fit onto the arms and have many jets direct onto the screen

26th Nov 2016 10:05am

Green Machine

Member Since: 19 Nov 2010
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 1226

@Retro - is that just a single standard LR washer pump? 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green

26th Nov 2016 10:19am

Retroanaconda

Member Since: 04 Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 2706

Yes, standard pump, plumbing etc. - I just put a T-piece in behind the dash. I have a double-pump reservoir but the second one is for the rear screen obviously.

As I mentioned before, pressure or volume is not the issue. Placement of the fluid is. I use far far less than I did before I converted it because it goes straight where it's needed. Though I did get through a whole reservoir full this week just gone as I seemed to spend most of the week stuck behind lorries and so was using the washers every 30 seconds or so!

26th Nov 2016 10:32am

Tdi4

Member Since: 24 Oct 2014
Location: Houten
Posts: 513

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey

Upto the TD5 the bulkhead has 9mm holes where you can put the jets in. From the Puma there are different and much bigger holes, with an awkward shape. In these holes you can't put the regular jets, therefore i designed a spacer (hopefully i get the foto in this post

) and then you can use the regular jets. And you don't have to change the pump, it's delivering sufficient water. Even when you spray from the front and the back at the same time.

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26th Nov 2016 10:38am

Green Machine

Member Since: 19 Nov 2010
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 1226

@Retro Thanks, looks spot on in your YouTube clip - massive improvement. Mine's going in for the mod next week. Been thinking about it for ages, but now that the winter grime has set in again I can't put up with the useless single washer any longer. 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green

26th Nov 2016 11:37am

John Fair

Member Since: 10 May 2016
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 150

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Santorini Black

Ref dash not having to come out in a puma- on mine I removed the center console (2 screws, pull to remove clips, remove wiring blocks), I then removed the metal bracket blocking the view of the back of the washer jet ( 8mm bolt, 4x plastic Christmas tree screw things with plugs) and simply tightened the washer jet mount with a 13mm deep socket after pulling pipe off the rear. Hopefully this helps someone. Realistically 15/20mins. Oh and a flashlight.

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28th Nov 2016 12:47pm

Thon

Member Since: 22 Nov 2015
Location: Salisbury Plain
Posts: 696

John that's priceless news!

I was going to have a go and see if I could see a way through it as I have had the center part of the dash out a few times for radio fitting and thought it couldn't be far away - now I know it is possible that's a massive help!!!

Top Man !!!!!

And Top Forum too Martin !!!!

28th Nov 2016 12:55pm

Scotm

Member Since: 28 Feb 2014
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 672

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Orkney Grey

TDi4 - Please could you explain how you fitted those without the dash removal. Are they glued in place?

28th Nov 2016 1:19pm

flydive

Member Since: 27 Aug 2015
Location: Lugano
Posts: 290

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 Heritage Edition SW Grasmere Green

Tdi4 wrote:
therefore i designed a spacer (hopefully i get the foto in this post ) and then you can use the regular jets.

Would you be willing to share the stl file?

I do not need it now, but someone might.

30th Nov 2016 12:22pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
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Another simple upgrade is to fit the red top rear washer pump to the front as this is more powerful than the black topped standard one apparently... 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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30th Nov 2016 4:45pm

Scotm

Member Since: 28 Feb 2014
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 672

I did swap mine round and it made a difference.

Very easy to do - IIRC there are joints on the pipes between the heater and inner wing on the puma that made it easier that reaching through to the actual pumps.

30th Nov 2016 5:12pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17610

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

John Fair wrote:
Ref dash not having to come out in a puma- on mine I removed the center console (2 screws, pull to remove clips, remove wiring blocks), I then removed the metal bracket blocking the view of the back of the washer jet ( 8mm bolt, 4x plastic Christmas tree screw things with plugs) and simply tightened the washer jet mount with a 13mm deep socket after pulling pipe off the rear. Hopefully this helps someone. Realistically 15/20mins.
...

Absolute top tip, thanks!

My nozzle popped off in the frost yesterday whe I squirted the screen, I heard it rattle off the bonnet and bounce under a back wheel.

Using John's method it only took 20 minutes to fit a new one. I didn't bother replacing the pressed steel bracket since the upgraded head unit doesn't it for support and it appears to do nothing else useful.

Anyone know a part number for the bit that pops off?

Anyone fitted (heated) bonnet jets or know of suitable ones?

29th Dec 2016 4:58pm

VeeTee

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http://www.paddockspares.com/dnj500270-kit-jet.html Cheers, Vincent
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29th Dec 2016 7:32pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17610

Thank you.

For some reason the front part on its own is more expensive than the complete assembly.

Explain that if you can!

29th Dec 2016 10:46pm

dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
Posts: 3586

Tdi4 wrote:

......... And you don't have to change the pump, it's delivering sufficient water. Even when you spray from the front and the back at the same time.

But rear spray use a different pump..... Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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