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BigMike



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well, i say "designed", thats pretty grand. its more of a rough sketch with some measurements Laughing
Post #52054 9th Jan 2011 7:51pm
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wyvern



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red
''EDIT:
I think WYVERN on here was looking into this also, did you get one ''

Hi Steve,
not yet .... festive season and other toys took priority over the budget for the year... Rolling Eyes however I've had the offer of a few 24v ones - it was very tempting but due to the voltage problem and the likes I've declined it for now as I'm not sure of how to mess arround with the volts etc ... my source is looking out for a 12 v one at the moment .... Whistle

However I'm going to do the fitting in a couple of stages to give me time to build up some money and get the wagon ready - so first job will be to fit an extra battery and split charge system so as I can run the heater overnight in the winter when camping with out flatteng the main sarting battery, also upgrade the aux electrical distribution board to give me some more electrial connections for the lights and laptop etc, then fit the unit to the wagon ..... may take some time - but we've lived without one for this long a wee while longer wont hurt.. Wink (plus I've got to wade though the fab information that dgardel has produced on fitting the heater Bow down !)

But we really wanted it last month when planning to camp out over christmas .... it was minus 10'c down here in Cornwall - so we wimped out and just had our crimble dinner under the awnings parked next to Brown Willy and Rought Tor .... Coool!
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Post #52095 9th Jan 2011 10:10pm
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BigMike



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wyvern, for split charge look no further than the product from Adverc. http://www.adverc.co.uk/product/801 Great value, robust, "intellient". and you dont need an optima battery either any reasonable deep cycle will do. mine was 65 quid Thumbs Up - its run a waeco fridge, inverter (ued daily to re-charge large camra batteries and aux light for 2 weeks without flattening.
Post #52106 9th Jan 2011 10:42pm
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WarPig



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England 1996 Defender 110 300 Tdi USW Bonatti Grey
BigMike wrote:
steve, thanks for that.

WP, £150. But that's with me supply the ready fabricated aux tank, the eberspacher feed already in it, and the whole thing suitably mounted. If they put it in the main tank the fitting costs is more as they have to drop the tank to get the feed in. I'd have done that myself but I already have an aux wheel tank on the o/s rear and to drop them both simultaneously would be a nightmare, as would removing the aux tank first due to the bleed valve in the base. I didn't want anyone messing with that set up so have designed a new small tank to fit in the n/s rear wheel arch at the front edge. In fact I emailed the sketch to allisport last week. It holds 6 litres.


Thanks BigMike. Definately considering it Smile
Post #52134 9th Jan 2011 11:59pm
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wyvern



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red
BigMike wrote:
wyvern, for split charge look no further than the product from Adverc. http://www.adverc.co.uk/product/801 Great value, robust, "intellient". and you dont need an optima battery either any reasonable deep cycle will do. mine was 65 quid Thumbs Up - its run a waeco fridge, inverter (ued daily to re-charge large camra batteries and aux light for 2 weeks without flattening.


Brill - that is just the sort of thig I was looking for !
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thats my summer project sorted!
off to Sweeden this year with the wagon so this will be just the job.
already fitted LED lights - so this will cover the rest
Cool Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold
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Post #52142 10th Jan 2011 6:54am
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Steve B



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wyvern wrote:
''EDIT:
I think WYVERN on here was looking into this also, did you get one ''

Hi Steve,
not yet .... festive season and other toys took priority over the budget for the year... Rolling Eyes however I've had the offer of a few 24v ones - it was very tempting but due to the voltage problem and the likes I've declined it for now as I'm not sure of how to mess arround with the volts etc ... my source is looking out for a 12 v one at the moment .... Whistle

However I'm going to do the fitting in a couple of stages to give me time to build up some money and get the wagon ready - so first job will be to fit an extra battery and split charge system so as I can run the heater overnight in the winter when camping with out flatteng the main sarting battery, also upgrade the aux electrical distribution board to give me some more electrial connections for the lights and laptop etc, then fit the unit to the wagon ..... may take some time - but we've lived without one for this long a wee while longer wont hurt.. Wink (plus I've got to wade though the fab information that dgardel has produced on fitting the heater Bow down !)

But we really wanted it last month when planning to camp out over christmas .... it was minus 10'c down here in Cornwall - so we wimped out and just had our crimble dinner under the awnings parked next to Brown Willy and Rought Tor .... Coool!
Cool


There's one out there for you Smile

I got mine Feb 10 and finally got it finished Sep 10, best to take your time and fit it properly. Not the sort of thing to fit quickly you would always wish you had fitted it better.

Your Crimbo sounded great, just googled 'Brown Willy & Rought Tor'

I can't wait for some proper winter camping, I fitted the heater for a future trip to the 'Northern Lights'
Post #52226 10th Jan 2011 6:38pm
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wyvern



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Steve B said ..
''Your Crimbo sounded great, just googled 'Brown Willy & Rought Tor' ''


Yikes ... wouldn't like to Google 'Brown Willy' out here on the patform !! I'd probably shut the company internet down for good if I did that !! Rolling with laughter Embarassed Embarassed

Edit by Wyvern
as usual I have made a spelling error - its Rough Tor

Also for thoese who need to know ..... Brown Willy is the highest hill in Cornwall, Rough Tor is the 2nd highest
 Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
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Post #52238 10th Jan 2011 7:19pm
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wyvern



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red
ok .. I know its a major thread revival .... Shocked Rolling Eyes

I've recently obtained an Airtronic D2 heater from a fellow forum member (thanks Steve!! Thumbs Up ) for fitting into the 110 before our next adventures.
The heater was complete and had been fitted in a roof box for heating a roof tent, however had a fault so wouldn't run, so I had it serviced in Taunton and given a full going over before fitting.

Today I started fitting the heater, and it actually works ! (.....with a temp fuel supply.. )
For me the job was in 4 main parts ... mounting the actual heater, fitting the external inlet/exhaust, fitting the fuel system and then sorting the electrics.

The heater - Its mounted across the vehicle under the left rear passenger seat with no need to have any hoses due to this particular heather having a 90' hot air outlet that directs the hot air out to the passengers legs, with the intake coming from under the seat. I had to remove the seat to get access to the floor panel under where the heater would sit.
Drilling the holes was laborious as despite measuring 5 times and using a template I still managed to put one of the holes next to a floor support member, making putting the nuts on the bolts a real challenge. Evil or Very Mad

The external air inlet/exhaust fittings - these were not too much of a difficult job, but more fiddly due to the need to reach tight fittings.(see above). hoses were held in position by banjo clips, and positioned so as fresh air is drawn in away from the exhaust outlet
The exhaust is still to be permanently fitted - as it was getting a bit dark when I was crawling around under the wagon looking for fixing points, but it probably will be fitted under the passenger floor away from damage and as much as possible away from egress points for fumes.

The fuel pump is mounted above the cross member out of the way from wheel spray. and I'm just waiting for the fuel line fitting and longer fuel line, which will link into the filler hose on the main tank.

electrics - the unit's wiring came complete with in-line fuses and connectors, so only needed to be attached directly to the battery, which was an easy thing to do as I have a 240 inverter next to the heater. the electrical system instillation will be completed when I've installed a 2nd battery and split charge/relay system.

the job was made much easier by all the great post and information on here, that gave me the knowledge and courage to give it a go! Bow down Bow down

I know that this is a post that requires pictures .. so will take some very soon! Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold
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Post #318568 23rd Mar 2014 10:32pm
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JWL



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Yours sounds pretty much the same as mine except that I am using a seperate fuel tank which in reality is the header tank off a Ford Orion diesel mounted under the bonnet next to my heater box. I did this for a couple of reasons, one was that because mine is a Td5, tapping into any fuel line is a definate no-no and I didn't want to disturb the filler pipe on a 12 year old motor. The other main reason was because I do have access to red diesel, it drastically makes it a very cheap thing to run. I put the pulse pump next to the tank as well which was probably as well with the amount of wading that had to be done in the last few months.
I'm pretty sure that it will be in action in the morning as we have a forecast of -3' in the morning and with a warm Defender on the drive it's easier to entice the my boy into it to get him to school Rolling Eyes
Post #318578 23rd Mar 2014 10:56pm
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wyvern



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some pics to be going on with ... some more of pump and fuel tie in to follow




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heater is fitted under 2nd row nearside seat (Left)


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 Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
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ROBBONTHEROCK



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Hi,

My 110 has one of these fitted, although the wiring needs to be re routed, some interesting choices were made during installation it would seem.

My heater is fitted on the drivers side under the 2nd row, like yours. I'm planning on running the wires out down to the chassis and into the battery box, then from there I'm going to remount the controller in a better location on the dash.

Can I ask how and where you routed your cables and controller?

Cheers
Andy
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JWL



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England 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Coniston Green
My set up is pretty much the same as Wyvern with, in my case a D1, fitted on the nearside under the passenger seat. I have an inverter mounted on the drivers side and as such have some heavy duty cabling to the inverter so I have taken my Eberspacher power from there. At the moment the feed runs under the matting on the floor but one day I will re-route the cables to pass through the seat box of the second row and enter the battery box through one of the many entry points that allready exist. As mentioned in my above post the fuel line passes along the top of the chassis to the fuel tank I have mounted next to the heater box under the bonnet.
The Eberspacer controls I have mounted on the fuse box cover in front of the gearsticks on my Td5 and the loom runs under the sound matting of the transmission tunnel and into the battery box, they then follow the line of the power cables back to the inverter and on to the Eberspacer.
I do have a satilite fuse box near the inverter on the seat box that feeds all the ancillaries, heater included in the back of the motor.
Post #345026 13th Jul 2014 9:29pm
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Mdm



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I've fitted a d2 to my td5
Ran off a separate tank for a while and now uses the spare inlet of the top of the tank pump.cut of the end of the nib and insert fuel pipe and hey presto heater works even when main tank almost empty.

Bear in mind no heater likes to pull fuel from beyond the makers max recommend length.in the install guide it recommends reducing pipe size etc. this will save faults in use.

On a td5 you can also run the feed pipe thur the small tank return pipe on the filler neck ,if the heater is close enough.you can't guarantee where the pipe will end up inthe tank though
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walfy



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I'm looking at some form of heating in my 110. Is the Eberspacher easy to control via remote means or is only on a timer? I had toyed with the idea of a Webasto utilising the oval remote control unit. But the unit is expensive to start with.
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Post #345254 14th Jul 2014 9:59pm
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JWL



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England 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Coniston Green
You can make anything remote that just requires an on/off. Mine has a cheap chinese programable timer on it but to be honest 9 times out of 10 I just go out and turn it on manually, go in the house make a cup of tea and by the time I've drunk that, put my coat and boots on the windows are defrosted and demisted and it's warm as toast. Usually warmer than the house which is my secret weapon to get the kids in it to get them to school Whistle
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