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RobertJ

Member Since: 18 Mar 2015
Location: Italy
Posts: 16

1986 Defender 110 2.5 n/a Diesel ST Alaska White

Hydraulic Power steering on 110

Hi All!

A while ago I have bought a 2.5N/A 110 HT Defender (I know it is actually just named as a 110) in France. A very nice car with low milage, has always done her job on the wine yards. I am restoring her at this moment, getting the chassis galvanized, respraying, converting it into a soft top, and overhauling the engine, transferbox and gearbox etc.
While I am taking it apart I noticed there is no power steering because of the manual steering box.
I have a hydraulic power steering set to put on on the steering rod and also a hydraulic pump on the engine. Also the hydraulic pump is driven by the same singel belt which also drives the alternator and the fan.

It is a Power steering set for series and early Defenders, so question SOLVED

[/b] [2015] Land Rover Defender 2.2 TD SW 110 X-Tech
[1986] Land Rover 110 2.5 N/A Soft Top

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15th Jul 2016 9:03am

shaggydog

Member Since: 12 Aug 2012
Location: Kent
Posts: 3347

1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi USW Arles Blue

That looks decidedly home made

Nothing to do with Land Rover Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

Self confessed mileage hunter

15th Jul 2016 11:58am

RobertJ

Member Since: 18 Mar 2015
Location: Italy
Posts: 16

It is a Hydraulic power steering steering system for Series and Defenders [2015] Land Rover Defender 2.2 TD SW 110 X-Tech
[1986] Land Rover 110 2.5 N/A Soft Top

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15th Jul 2016 12:15pm

shaggydog

Member Since: 12 Aug 2012
Location: Kent
Posts: 3347

Depends how far you want to go.

If you want to keep it fairly original then just remove it and keep it as non power steering. Not sure what should be there but I don't remember there being anything there on a standard 2.5n/a

I'm not sure if there was a power steering option for the 2.5na but I would be surprised if there was not. parts may be prohibitively expensive though.

If it was me, I would find a old 200Tdi Discovery and fit the engine, Intercooler etc into yours and use a standard defender power steering setup. Much easier for future maintenance and will give the vehicle a new lease of life as the 2.5n/a is a bit of an agricultural lump - but will go on forever!

I wouldn't really want to chance with the setup as is. I'm sure it is fine and has been on there for years but there is a lot of weight there and that ram looks capable of putting a huge amount of force if it was to go wrong. Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

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15th Jul 2016 12:27pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

http://www.allbrit.de/UNI.cfm?PAGE=746902&SPRACHE=EN

show power steering for 2.5 n/a but parts may be a problem

15th Jul 2016 12:35pm

RobertJ

Member Since: 18 Mar 2015
Location: Italy
Posts: 16

shaggydog wrote:
Depends how far you want to go.

If you want to keep it fairly original then just remove it and keep it as non power steering. Not sure what should be there but I don't remember there being anything there on a standard 2.5n/a

I'm not sure if there was a power steering option for the 2.5na but I would be surprised if there was not. parts may be prohibitively expensive though.

If it was me, I would find a old 200Tdi Discovery and fit the engine, Intercooler etc into yours and use a standard defender power steering setup. Much easier for future maintenance and will give the vehicle a new lease of life as the 2.5n/a is a bit of an agricultural lump - but will go on forever!

I wouldn't really want to chance with the setup as is. I'm sure it is fine and has been on there for years but there is a lot of weight there and that ram looks capable of putting a huge amount of force if it was to go wrong.

True, I have thought about fitting a 200Tdi but I want this one to be fairly original and I like the tractor like diesel

I bought it for toddling (it that even an english word?) through town and the surroundings. [2015] Land Rover Defender 2.2 TD SW 110 X-Tech
[1986] Land Rover 110 2.5 N/A Soft Top

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15th Jul 2016 12:40pm

miker

Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1763

I can't find the link from my phone, but it is possible to buy retrofit power steering kits for series vehicles. That looks pretty similar to those, so may just be an aftermarket kit been fitted? Although obviously not original, it looks fairly proper!

15th Jul 2016 1:16pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17450

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

That is an aftermarket PAS system of a fairly conventional design.

15th Jul 2016 1:49pm

rallysteve

Member Since: 10 Feb 2014
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 2237

2002 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Keswick Green

Have seen similar before fitted to forrestry series/pre defenders which were fitted with large agri-tyres or tracks. Think it was possibly used to stop the large wheels bending the front steering link in boggy ground and possibly as the standard PAS didnt provide enough assistance. 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread

15th Jul 2016 2:39pm

Bps

Member Since: 14 Feb 2016
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 833

Hydro assist is quite commonplace in the challenge scene, most use a similar principle to what you have got, modern versions are available front the likes of Gwynn Lewis though to full hydro steer systems.

If it works I'd leave it as it does look a period modification and will be a lot better than no power steering

15th Jul 2016 3:45pm

Andy80

Member Since: 31 May 2013
Location: Essex
Posts: 490

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Cairns Blue

It looks very similar to the Heystee Automotive kit...

http://www.heystee-automotive.com/parts/pas/pas.htm Working towards Carry on camping!

15th Jul 2016 5:21pm

Cupboard

Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 2971

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey

RobertJ wrote:

I bought it for toddling (it that even an english word?) through town and the surroundings.

I've no idea about your steering but that's a perfect use for the English word "toddling". Bumbling around slowly and not necessarily in the most direct route. A child learning to walk is often called a toddler.

15th Jul 2016 5:53pm

giles

Member Since: 21 Jan 2013
Location: 81600
Posts: 9

Calzoni steering kits used to be a popular add-on to series vehicles (here in France at any rate). Not so common to see on a 90/110

16th Jul 2016 11:53am

RobertJ

Member Since: 18 Mar 2015
Location: Italy
Posts: 16

Cupboard wrote:
RobertJ wrote:

I bought it for toddling (it that even an english word?) through town and the surroundings.

I've no idea about your steering but that's a perfect use for the English word "toddling". Bumbling around slowly and not necessarily in the most direct route. A child learning to walk is often called a toddler.

Glad to hear that

Quote:
Calzoni steering kits used to be a popular add-on to series vehicles (here in France at any rate). Not so common to see on a 90/110 Smile

Then I am not so surprised it is indeed a Hydraulic power steering set for Series and Early Defenders, thanks! [2015] Land Rover Defender 2.2 TD SW 110 X-Tech
[1986] Land Rover 110 2.5 N/A Soft Top

22nd Jul 2016 8:50am

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