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RobertJ



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Italy 1986 Defender 110 2.5 n/a Diesel ST Alaska White
Hydraulic Power steering on 110
Hi All!

A while ago I have bought a 2.5N/A 110 HT Defender (I know it is actually just named as a 110) in France. A very nice car with low milage, has always done her job on the wine yards. I am restoring her at this moment, getting the chassis galvanized, respraying, converting it into a soft top, and overhauling the engine, transferbox and gearbox etc.
While I am taking it apart I noticed there is no power steering because of the manual steering box.
I have a hydraulic power steering set to put on on the steering rod and also a hydraulic pump on the engine. Also the hydraulic pump is driven by the same singel belt which also drives the alternator and the fan.

It is a Power steering set for series and early Defenders, so question SOLVED

[/b] [2015] Land Rover Defender 2.2 TD SW 110 X-Tech
[1986] Land Rover 110 2.5 N/A Soft Top


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shaggydog



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United Kingdom 1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi USW Arles Blue
That looks decidedly home made Shocked

Nothing to do with Land Rover Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

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RobertJ



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Italy 1986 Defender 110 2.5 n/a Diesel ST Alaska White
It is a Hydraulic power steering steering system for Series and Defenders [2015] Land Rover Defender 2.2 TD SW 110 X-Tech
[1986] Land Rover 110 2.5 N/A Soft Top


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shaggydog



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United Kingdom 1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi USW Arles Blue
Depends how far you want to go.

If you want to keep it fairly original then just remove it and keep it as non power steering. Not sure what should be there but I don't remember there being anything there on a standard 2.5n/a

I'm not sure if there was a power steering option for the 2.5na but I would be surprised if there was not. parts may be prohibitively expensive though.

If it was me, I would find a old 200Tdi Discovery and fit the engine, Intercooler etc into yours and use a standard defender power steering setup. Much easier for future maintenance and will give the vehicle a new lease of life as the 2.5n/a is a bit of an agricultural lump - but will go on forever!

I wouldn't really want to chance with the setup as is. I'm sure it is fine and has been on there for years but there is a lot of weight there and that ram looks capable of putting a huge amount of force if it was to go wrong. Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

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dorsetsmith



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http://www.allbrit.de/UNI.cfm?PAGE=746902&SPRACHE=EN

show power steering for 2.5 n/a but parts may be a problem
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RobertJ



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Italy 1986 Defender 110 2.5 n/a Diesel ST Alaska White
shaggydog wrote:
Depends how far you want to go.

If you want to keep it fairly original then just remove it and keep it as non power steering. Not sure what should be there but I don't remember there being anything there on a standard 2.5n/a

I'm not sure if there was a power steering option for the 2.5na but I would be surprised if there was not. parts may be prohibitively expensive though.

If it was me, I would find a old 200Tdi Discovery and fit the engine, Intercooler etc into yours and use a standard defender power steering setup. Much easier for future maintenance and will give the vehicle a new lease of life as the 2.5n/a is a bit of an agricultural lump - but will go on forever!

I wouldn't really want to chance with the setup as is. I'm sure it is fine and has been on there for years but there is a lot of weight there and that ram looks capable of putting a huge amount of force if it was to go wrong.


True, I have thought about fitting a 200Tdi but I want this one to be fairly original and I like the tractor like diesel Laughing
I bought it for toddling (it that even an english word?) through town and the surroundings. [2015] Land Rover Defender 2.2 TD SW 110 X-Tech
[1986] Land Rover 110 2.5 N/A Soft Top


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Post #548980 15th Jul 2016 12:40pm
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miker



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Rioja Red
I can't find the link from my phone, but it is possible to buy retrofit power steering kits for series vehicles. That looks pretty similar to those, so may just be an aftermarket kit been fitted? Although obviously not original, it looks fairly proper!
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
That is an aftermarket PAS system of a fairly conventional design.
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rallysteve



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Keswick Green
Have seen similar before fitted to forrestry series/pre defenders which were fitted with large agri-tyres or tracks. Think it was possibly used to stop the large wheels bending the front steering link in boggy ground and possibly as the standard PAS didnt provide enough assistance. 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread
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Bps



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Hydro assist is quite commonplace in the challenge scene, most use a similar principle to what you have got, modern versions are available front the likes of Gwynn Lewis though to full hydro steer systems.

If it works I'd leave it as it does look a period modification and will be a lot better than no power steering
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Andy80



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England 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Cairns Blue
It looks very similar to the Heystee Automotive kit...

http://www.heystee-automotive.com/parts/pas/pas.htm Working towards Carry on camping!
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Cupboard



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
RobertJ wrote:

I bought it for toddling (it that even an english word?) through town and the surroundings.



I've no idea about your steering but that's a perfect use for the English word "toddling". Bumbling around slowly and not necessarily in the most direct route. A child learning to walk is often called a toddler.
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giles



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Calzoni steering kits used to be a popular add-on to series vehicles (here in France at any rate). Not so common to see on a 90/110 Smile
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RobertJ



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Italy 1986 Defender 110 2.5 n/a Diesel ST Alaska White
Cupboard wrote:
RobertJ wrote:

I bought it for toddling (it that even an english word?) through town and the surroundings.



I've no idea about your steering but that's a perfect use for the English word "toddling". Bumbling around slowly and not necessarily in the most direct route. A child learning to walk is often called a toddler.


Laughing Glad to hear that Wink

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Calzoni steering kits used to be a popular add-on to series vehicles (here in France at any rate). Not so common to see on a 90/110 Smile


Then I am not so surprised it is indeed a Hydraulic power steering set for Series and Early Defenders, thanks! [2015] Land Rover Defender 2.2 TD SW 110 X-Tech
[1986] Land Rover 110 2.5 N/A Soft Top
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