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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816   
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Yes. but that they do on the other side of the Röstigraben. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%B6stigraben 
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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23rd Jun 2016 3:39am |
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| Andrew*Debbie Member Since: 25 May 2016 Location: Anglesey Posts: 95 
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Sure, It is in the references in the original post.
http://depacproducts.net/anti.html To be fair, Depac make a metal free anti-seize. Molyslip make Copaslip, but recommend their nickel based product for stainless: http://www.molyslip.co.uk/media/upload/fil...t-(V2).pdf Loctite make several copper based products and they are not recommended for stainless steel. It is in the applications details chart in the middle of this pdf: http://hybris.cms.henkel.com/medias/sys_ma...333918.pdf Last edited by Andrew*Debbie on 23rd Jun 2016 9:54am. Edited 3 times in total |
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23rd Jun 2016 5:56am |
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| Andrew*Debbie Member Since: 25 May 2016 Location: Anglesey Posts: 95
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I'll stick to Vegimite.
Weicon AS contains nickel and is both toxic and a carcinogen. Weicon High-Tech is not as nasty. I still wouldn't eat it. I really should get a tub of the High-Tech or similar. They are fine for all applications except extreme high temperatures and much better for our health. |
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23rd Jun 2016 6:03am |
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| nitram17 Member Since: 08 Jun 2014 Location: newcastle Posts: 2261 |
Peter your personal insight and anacdotal experience of use of the berner paste probably points to the fact that any barrier paste even lithium grease or vasaline of honey for that matter may do to prevent galvanic corrosion if it keeps the moisture out ........but others experience or use may be different to yours and i would prefer to buy and use stuff that states on the tin that its designet to be anti seize and anti galvanic corrosion paste.............if you look a tthe berner data sheet it states it has not been tested for conductive properties so on that basis i am out..........I know you stick that paste in with your ss bolt kits and you have many years using it and that fine and dandy but many others on here will state that they have also used copaslip for years on their defender bolts and nuts (SS ans well) and have had no corrosion but i would personally prefer not to use copaslip as the idea of shoving a copper based grease between ss and ali just feels wrong!
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23rd Jun 2016 6:28am |
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| Andrew*Debbie Member Since: 25 May 2016 Location: Anglesey Posts: 95
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Normfest BMP == Bremsenmontagepaste which translates to brake assembly paste.
The English language catalog says it is copper paste. Page 13 of the first reference.
The German data sheet says it is a blend of soft metals and is silver coloured.
Reference: http://www.normfest.de/fileadmin/user_uplo...enance.pdf https://www.normfest-shop.com/_cms_/docume...on--de.pdf |
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23rd Jun 2016 9:40am |
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| Andrew*Debbie Member Since: 25 May 2016 Location: Anglesey Posts: 95
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Nakatanenga say both Berner and Normfest BMP work and I'm not going to question their experience.
Unless Nakatanenga say otherwise, I'm going to use Weicon AS since I already have it.  Click image to enlarge |
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23rd Jun 2016 9:50am |
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| nakatanenga Member Since: 12 Nov 2010 Location: Neumarkt Posts: 546 
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You mention "personal insight and anacdotal experience" as negative, and "a copper based grease between ss and ali just feels wrong" as positive.
Ok, your point of view..... The Normfest is silver colour, not golden. Normfest is the producer, Berner (like Würth) a large distributor with own brand. We never tried Weicon but we have personal insight and anacdotal experience from some customers that it was doing no harm to their nuts...... .....and bolts. WANTED: SII or SIII in max 1.5k |
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23rd Jun 2016 10:22am |
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| Andrew*Debbie Member Since: 25 May 2016 Location: Anglesey Posts: 95
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If is it silver, it should be fine (copper free)
The english catalog is probably a translation error. (Translator was given the wrong text or some such) |
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23rd Jun 2016 10:27am |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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Taken from Berner
[quote] details Application areas Assembly aid for the risk of corrosion, temperature and environment-loaded components such as screws or flanged Main User building construction and civil engineering Heating technology Metal and maintenance workshops Product advantages high-performance lubricant and protective agent based on aluminum Well suited for use in extreme temperature ranges immediate lubricating effect High pressure loading reduces fuel consumption by thin-film lubrication Properties of heavy metals and mineral oil-free, protects against corrosion, resistant to water, alkalis, salt water and acids. Not electrically conductive. |
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23rd Jun 2016 10:31am |
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| nakatanenga Member Since: 12 Nov 2010 Location: Neumarkt Posts: 546
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Just phoned Berner and they confirmed that the Berner stuff is made by Normfest. WANTED:
SII or SIII in max 1.5k |
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23rd Jun 2016 10:36am |
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| Andrew*Debbie Member Since: 25 May 2016 Location: Anglesey Posts: 95
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Good to know. Thank you for the investigation.
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23rd Jun 2016 10:55am |
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