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dst015



Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: Aberdeen
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Java Black
Headlights, Another thread about them
So as per Defender standard my headlights stopped working a couple of weeks ago, Came on here and found its a common problem and its usually the dim/dip stalk thats burnt out and the best fix was a new one plus a new loom from landreiziger.

New stalk ordered, Landreiziger loom ordered, new relay ordered for good measure.

Stalk and relay changed out for new, Loom fitted with the power taken directly from the rear of the alternator.

I still have no bloody lights other than side lights!! If i disconnect the loom from the side its connected at and connect the light back to the original directly i have nothing other than full beam on flash....

What the hell is going on here?? Can anyone help??

(its a 2009 plate)
Post #496698 26th Jan 2016 5:01pm
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Gaz



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United Kingdom 1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Pennine Grey
Hi sorry to hear about your probs,Did you check the relay under the steering wheel in the fuse box,mine was missing when i collected the car from Keswick ,only found out when i got home!!300 miles away.Also could be the on off switch. Thumbs Up
Post #496727 26th Jan 2016 5:58pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
The off/side/head light switch usually fails before the main/dip/flash stalk.

If you had neither dip nor main before you changed the switch, it will be the little stalk nearer the instruments. If you had either dip or main but not the both, it'll be the longer stalk.

I wouldn't mind betting that you've replaced the wrong switch Big Cry
Post #496729 26th Jan 2016 6:02pm
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Happyoldgit



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
Agreed, look to the the other switch. Steve.
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Post #496732 26th Jan 2016 6:11pm
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dst015



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Java Black
Gaz, Yeah I've changed out the wee pink relay under the steering column.

Blackwolf, It was the off/side/head light switch i changed out (the wee short stalk). I had side lights before, I've made all the changes and still only have side lights.

The prevailing theory now is the main control stalk?? IE indicator/flasher/full beam stalk? is that right?? i just want to be as clear as mud before spending more cash.

Thanks everyone!
Post #496738 26th Jan 2016 6:17pm
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Chocolate



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey
Mine was the main indicator stalk. Could get the lights to work by pushing main beam on then off. Lights would work then.
You have to take the wheel off to change it.
I had the same as you. Changed main short stalk, loom was done last year.

Think they are about £70.00.
I couldn't get the wheel off so mechanic did it in the end when the gearbox had to come out. 110XS CSW TD5.
Post #496749 26th Jan 2016 6:37pm
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Cupboard



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
Can you flash your headlights?
Post #496788 26th Jan 2016 7:57pm
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dst015



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Java Black
yeah i can flash my headlights if everything is connected through the original loom. When i try and use the new loom however nothing works...
Post #497068 27th Jan 2016 5:09pm
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Ranger



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 110 Td5 G4 LE Zambezi Silver
Had this problem last week, sidelights only, worked on the flash and full beam. Changed headlight stalk for new, no difference. Now mine is a 1990 90HT, no dim dip relay behind the binnacle. The fuse box in front of the gearstick, has about 5 relays on the bottom row. Think the 2nd one in from the right is the headlight one. Current travels from the stalk, to the relay, back to the stalk, then to the fuse. I bridged a wire direct from relay to fuse and hey presto, all good, there was a break in the wire along the loom. May not be to everyone's liking, but it beats pulling the dash apart and checking the loom for a break in it.
Post #497077 27th Jan 2016 5:53pm
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Gaz



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United Kingdom 1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Pennine Grey
Hi ive got a MY12 wiring diagram if this will help in Pdf format,but dont know how to upload it... Embarassed
Post #497107 27th Jan 2016 7:19pm
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