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Caterham



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school boy error....
So what have I gone and done?

An oil change......very easy you might think?

Normally I would agree only this time I've gone and done it without first filling the oil filter first!

So who's the answer?
Post #282791 16th Nov 2013 8:34pm
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T1G UP



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take the oil filter off and put some oil in it!
Post #282793 16th Nov 2013 8:36pm
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Lou Sparts



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I never fill the oil filter first ! have i been doing it wrong all these years ? 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
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same as above but when it comes to the fuel filter then I fill it up BM52
Post #282796 16th Nov 2013 8:42pm
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Not an issue! Just start it up and stop it right away a couple of times and the filter will fill up or just start it and let it idle until the oil light goes out. The Puma filter holds very little oil anyway so will fill quickly. Besides most garage mechanics when it isn`t their own car and on racing to meet manufacturers times to do a job aren`t going to bother prefilling the filter housing before hand anyway! Smile
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I would fill the fuel filter before fitting but not the oil filter, just use a little clean oil on the rubber seal
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Caterham



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Shocked

That's good to know.... ( clearly I don't have a clue Laughing )
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I,m With BM52 i always fill fuel filter before fitting as it save all that bleeding/purging procedure. 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
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dondiddy



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Especially with the 2.4 Puma you must always fill the fuel filter before fitting it then start the engine and let it idle for a few minutes otherwise you have a pig of a job bleeding it without the special primer bulb that Landrover state you need. (Ask me how I know!) and thats even when I did fill the filter beforehand! Laughing
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Caterham



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Will sort the fuel filter later today now I have some fuel in the jerry can. Having done the oil, oil filter and air filter...what a difference!! induction growl sounds so much more obvious and low speed pickup is so much quicker.

Old air filter looked well dirty (wish i'd left a mark on old filter before service) so I guess either the air filter has improved things or i've disturbed the wiring for the better?

Either way Very Happy
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Interlet



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Sounds like the puma fuel bleeding process is more of a ball ache than the TD5 one, which was a complete doddle. Something like push pedal hold it for so long push again bla bla.

But nah, never bother with oil filter filling - not even on aircraft which hold 8 litres of oil, the 1st litre gets blown straight out the vent, half litre into the oil cannister after running it, then you're down to 6.5 already - ideal!

Oil system can sort itself out, fuel, not so much. 1998 110 300Tdi White Hard Top
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dondiddy wrote:
Especially with the 2.4 Puma you must always fill the fuel filter before fitting it then start the engine and let it idle for a few minutes otherwise you have a pig of a job bleeding it without the special primer bulb that Landrover state you need. (Ask me how I know!) and thats even when I did fill the filter beforehand! Laughing


Yes definitely make sure you don't get air in the fuel system.

No auto prime feature and no pump on the filter itself as some cars have.

Think this was the cause of my high pressure fuel pump failure not too long ago, although nothing was ever proven- was very weird Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
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Don't forget to fill the air filter with air when you fit it too!. Craig Rogers

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Caterham



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Shocked

damn....can I use my track pump....... Rolling with laughter

Rolling with laughter Thumbs Up
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x-isle wrote:
Don't forget to fill the air filter with air when you fit it too!.


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