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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586  
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yesterday night I changed the front and rear diffs. oils.
I know that, normally, the front diff. are more stressed (every time the front oil was worst than the rear one) but in this car (33.000 km) it was very very BAD!!! I think that a little amount of water could be entered from the ventilation pipe, just on the connector from the axle and the pipe (it is a fast rilsan type connection, like used on the air compressors/plant). SO, my question is: same of us had changed the diffs. oils? have you noted anythings strange? I suggest to all to control/change the diffs. oils. Daniele p.s. during this week(end) I'll change gearbox and rid. oils too.......... Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition 
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18th Nov 2009 8:25am |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586
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Now I remember that the front diff. oil take the color from the CV joint grease (steering balls)..............
and I add the T&D Bardahl additive ................ Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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18th Nov 2009 8:51am |
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| dm_td5 Member Since: 20 Jul 2008 Location: Arnhem Land Posts: 609  
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Ah so that explains it. I changed the front and rear after 35,000km (16 months) and noticed the rear wasn't to bad but the front was black and old. I'd done an initial change two weeks after I bought the Puma (5,000km) and I remember it wasn't that bad.
Are the swivel housings grease or oil filled on the Puma? 110 2.4TDCi 110 300Tdi
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18th Nov 2009 9:02am |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586
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Grease filled Molytex type Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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18th Nov 2009 9:10am |
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| CapeLandy Member Since: 21 Jul 2008 Location: Cape Town Posts: 558 
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The manual on swivel housing lubrication does not realy explain how to check levels or refill with grease. Any Ideas?
Lubrication The differential, swivel pin housing and wheel hubs are individually lubricated and separated by oil seals (7) and (  ,
see J6267A, to prevent oil transfer across the axle when the vehicle is traversing steep inclines. The wheel bearings are lubricated with grease and the swivel housing and differential with oil. On later vehicles, identified by having only a filler plug in the swivel housing, grease is used to lubricate the housing assembly, Puma 110 - gone Series III 1973 - going strong |
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18th Nov 2009 1:17pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586
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you must take off the shaft for change the grease, but need more time to write it that do it Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated  Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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18th Nov 2009 1:42pm |
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| CapeLandy Member Since: 21 Jul 2008 Location: Cape Town Posts: 558
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Thanks. Seems better just to top up if necessary. Has anyone ever checked swivel housing level through the filler plug and if so is the EP0 quite liquid that you would get an actual level to feel?
I also checked the manual and found two different specs for the rear and front diff oil quantities and brands. One part says 1.7 litres front and 2,26 litres rear. Other part says 1,6 front and rear. They also specify Molytex EP90 or later in the book Castrol EPX 80W-90. Are these the same? We do have Castrol down the road so would be easier to get that brand. Puma 110 - gone Series III 1973 - going strong |
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18th Nov 2009 1:53pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586
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For the quantity, the filler hole do the level, I try to explain me better:
when you fill the NEW oil, fill it up to it came out from the hole. Click image to enlarge motore = engine cambio = gearbox scatola del riduttore = transfer case differenziale posteriore = Rear diff. differenziale anteriore = front diff. Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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18th Nov 2009 2:08pm |
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| Bomber82 Member Since: 20 Oct 2009 Location: Alessandria - Italy Posts: 216
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If the oil in front axle is black coloured, it's contaminated by the swivel housings grease, that don't matter about quality, but be carefull and check the quantity of grase in the swivel housings.
Otherwise if the color is light brown, like maionese, means that wather had contaminated the oil. Matteo Defender 110 Td4 SE MY 09 |
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18th Nov 2009 4:02pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586
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Thanks Matteo,
it's black and the oil have the Moly grease smell. if you see the design of the oil ring (nr. 8 on the first draw) it retain the oil but not te grease. Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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18th Nov 2009 5:12pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586
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The Castrol BOT 130M is superseded by Castrol BOT 328 fully synthetic GL4-GL5 80W-90 oil Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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18th Nov 2009 5:22pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2431  
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[quote="dgardel
you must take off the shaft for change the grease, but need more time to write it that do it[/quote] Not necessarily. With the swivel still warm you could take the lower pin and bearing, letting the stuff to drain out. Mk Puma 110" SW ............................................................. Earth first. Other planets later |
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18th Nov 2009 5:55pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038  
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Am i missing something Grease for life should be in the swivels and therefore they shouldnt need to be drained and thus only checked through the top plug (there should be a rear drain one)
As for the diff oil...i wonder Mike |
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18th Nov 2009 6:54pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2431
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THey are supposed to be greased/sealed for "life". I was just mentioning the above in case of water contamination. The only plug is to fill in with one shot grease (#STC3435) which is about 350 cc. Puma 110" SW ............................................................. Earth first. Other planets later |
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18th Nov 2009 7:12pm |
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