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CapeLandy Member Since: 21 Jul 2008 Location: Cape Town Posts: 558 |
So are we supposed to use the Castrol Full Synthetic Oil in the two diffs as opposed to the EP 80W 90 from the manual?
My Castrol agent down the road said the synthetic is better but would that be overkill? Puma 110 - gone Series III 1973 - going strong |
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19th Nov 2009 10:45am |
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dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 |
No overkill.... Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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19th Nov 2009 10:57am |
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CapeLandy Member Since: 21 Jul 2008 Location: Cape Town Posts: 558 |
Thanks Dgardle
one more question. In RSA Castrol only have the BOT 130M which is a GL4 (75W80) - will this still be OK? For interest I called LR parts who would not give the specification but told me I could only get the oil from them at a cost of ZAR 369 per liter as opposed to Castrol who charge it at ZAR 79 per liter. Puma 110 - gone Series III 1973 - going strong |
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19th Nov 2009 2:24pm |
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MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2432 |
You have to use GL-4 in the gearbox. Sulphur and other stuff would kill any yellow metal (bronze and other alloys). Puma 110" SW
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19th Nov 2009 3:30pm |
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dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 |
BOT130M it's ok, is the predecessor of 328 (in Italy at least....) Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition IID Pro MV License |
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19th Nov 2009 7:42pm |
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CapeLandy Member Since: 21 Jul 2008 Location: Cape Town Posts: 558 |
I still am confused somewhat
On further investigation: The TexacoEP-C 80W-90 (listed as diff oil in user manual) has very similar specs to the Castrol EPX 80W-90 API GL-5 as below: Texaco Density at 15'C 898kg/m^3 Viscosity 100'C 14.5 Viscosity 40'C 131 Brookfield Viscosity @-26'C 130,000 Pour Point -33 Castrol EPX 886 14.2 140.3 130,000 -30 BOT130M 873 15.1 76 3400 -54 Seems EPX has closer readings so won't be detrimental? Anyways, I dropped the oil in both diffs. Front was very black with slight water emulsion and seemed a little greasy. Must check swivel housing levels tomorrow. Rear diff little brown but not nearly as bad as front. I refilled with the EPX as above until someone advises me I made big mistake or not. Cheers 4 now Puma 110 - gone Series III 1973 - going strong |
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20th Nov 2009 8:48pm |
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dm_td5 Member Since: 20 Jul 2008 Location: Arnhem Land Posts: 609 |
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20th Nov 2009 9:08pm |
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CapeLandy Member Since: 21 Jul 2008 Location: Cape Town Posts: 558 |
Thanks Derek, feel little more confident now.
Will replace with Syntrax at next big trip into hot dusty Africa. (June 2010 when all the football hooligans arrive ) Puma 110 - gone Series III 1973 - going strong |
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20th Nov 2009 9:26pm |
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MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2432 |
Capelandy: I think you can not check the swivels. They filled with 370 gm of grease. MK Puma 110" SW ............................................................. Earth first. Other planets later |
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21st Nov 2009 12:45am |
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CapeLandy Member Since: 21 Jul 2008 Location: Cape Town Posts: 558 |
I wanted to stick my finger down the filler hole and check the level.
If EP0 is fairly runny then it should leave a level of sorts that you could feel with a thin pinkie finger - or not? Puma 110 - gone Series III 1973 - going strong |
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21st Nov 2009 5:33am |
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dm_td5 Member Since: 20 Jul 2008 Location: Arnhem Land Posts: 609 |
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21st Nov 2009 7:05am |
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dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 |
no way to check with finger Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition IID Pro MV License |
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21st Nov 2009 11:29am |
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CapeLandy Member Since: 21 Jul 2008 Location: Cape Town Posts: 558 |
Another thing to note, when I removed both filler plugs on the front and rear diffs and buffed the threads in the wire buff to remove the old thread sealant, I noticed both threads were stripped/ damaged.
Seems the filler socket/insert is welded into the diff housing which causes the thread to shrink. Normally one needs to run a tap through again after welding in such a thin socket. They must have then forced in the filler plug in the factory, damaging the threads. The drains were ok however. Anyways, ran a thread file over them a little but not much to salvage. I fitted a light layer of hydraulic thread sealer on the threads before refitting. Amazing that this can be happening in the factory. I assume Puma 110 - gone Series III 1973 - going strong |
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21st Nov 2009 2:21pm |
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Grockle Member Since: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Peak District National Park Posts: 2266 |
doesn't bear thinking about the bodged stuff you don't find whilst doing maitenance 2.4 90 XS 1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up. |
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21st Nov 2009 2:45pm |
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