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carrotbay



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Wiring converter for Exmoor heated seats into 110 XS loom ?
Hi

I am looking for somewhere where I can get the male socket for the heated seats that plugs into my 110 under the seat. I have bought some replacement seats from Exmoor that come with different heated seat wiring, and I'd prefer not to butcher either the existing wiring on the 110 or cut the plugs from the old seats (they're in pretty good nick)

Any ideas?

Thanks

Phil.
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DAZ110



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Maybe here?

http://www.dingocroft.co.uk/

Probably best speaking to them on the phone?


I've now had a look around and think this is what you want:

http://www.autosparks.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=1770

and look here....

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic7679-30.html

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Have a mooch on here: Thumbs Up

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-...ectors.php If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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Search ebay for 'econoseal', which I'm pretty sure are the same pattern. Male and female in a variety of configurations are available. Darren

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I may be wrong but are they not the same connectors used on the NAS style lights? You could always try the dealers? If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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Yes, they are, although not just the NAS lights but the standard ones, too.

I have a selection of the Econseal ones to fit NAS lights to my Sankey trailer at some point. Darren

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Knew I'd seen them somewhere else apart from under the seats.... Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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PaulMc



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They're not Econoseal connectors, they're MQS connectors.

The connectors on the seats are female -




Will the Defender's factory wiring work with Exmoor (Waeco) heated seats?

The Defender's heated seat connectors are only 2-way - live & earth.

I believe that the Exmoor (Waeco) heated seats are wired for high and low heat settings.

.

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LandRoverAnorak wrote:
Yes, they are, although not just the NAS lights but the standard ones, too.

I have a selection of the Econseal ones to fit NAS lights to my Sankey trailer at some point.



The lamp units (NAS and standard) use Econoseal connectors.

The heated seats use MQS connectors, which are the same as the connectors used on the front wing side indicator repeaters.

. Paul.
1989 Arles Blue 2.5TD 110 Hardtop
1999 Epsom Green Discovery II 4.0 V8i 'XS'
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PaulMc wrote:
They're not Econoseal connectors, they're MQS connectors.

The connectors on the seats are female -




Will the Defender's factory wiring work with Exmoor (Waeco) heated seats?

The Defender's heated seat connectors are only 2-way - live & earth.

I believe that the Exmoor (Waeco) heated seats are wired for high and low heat settings.

.


Is it possible to take the live and earth from the waeco heaters and run them through the original Landrover switches as an on/off switch to keep the factory look but have the waeco switches mounted elsewhere to keep the two setting function?

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mk1collector wrote:
Is it possible to take the live and earth from the waeco heaters and run them through the original Landrover switches as an on/off switch to keep the factory look but have the waeco switches mounted elsewhere to keep the two setting function?


Yes, that would work.

This is the wiring diagram for the Waeco MSH-50 heated seat kit -


Click image to enlarge

. Paul.
1989 Arles Blue 2.5TD 110 Hardtop
1999 Epsom Green Discovery II 4.0 V8i 'XS'

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So I presume you would just take the live and earth into the Landrover switch before the twin setting switch and that should be it?
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I think I linked the blue and white wires together from the seat heater and connected to the yellow from the original landrover heated seat connection. Then the brown from the seat heater connected to the grey from the original landrover heated seat connection. This way I have the full heat only when I switch the landrover dash switch on and not two stage heating.

If any body understands what I mean by the above I'll be surprised Exclamation Confused Rolling Eyes

Here's a photo:


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No, just the live, like this -


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For clarity, I haven't shown the dash illumination and earth connections in the above diagram, just the 'live in' and 'switched live out' on Pins 1 & 4.


The Defender switches are wired, as follows -

Pin 1 - Live in

Pin 2 - Dash Illumination

Pin 3 - Not used

Pin 4 - Switched live out

Pin 5 - Earth



Click image to enlarge

. Paul.
1989 Arles Blue 2.5TD 110 Hardtop
1999 Epsom Green Discovery II 4.0 V8i 'XS'

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