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SGH

Member Since: 27 Sep 2010
Location: Hellingly-Sussex
Posts: 1527

Key remote issues

I bought a while back one of these keys with integral fob but it does not seem to work as it should. Once vehicle is unlocked and started if I switch ignition off I need to re-lock the vehicle then unlock for it to be able to start.

Anyone else had this issue ?

I was planning on getting from Brendan one of the flip key and fob and don't want to experience same issues if it's a issue with just my vehicle.

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22nd Feb 2015 3:55pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

sounds like the transponder chip is faulty or not there at all

when you unlock by the button that switches off imobiliser and unlocks doors

if you turn off without locking and open door get in , then the chip turns the imobiliser off

say sounds like chip is not working or poss its not there on that type of key

if you still got a standard fob and key I take it that works ok ?

22nd Feb 2015 4:00pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20613

Have you just tried pressing unlock quickly instead even though it's already unlocked?

22nd Feb 2015 4:35pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

yes it should be that you can push just unlock without locking first

22nd Feb 2015 5:04pm

rallysteve

Member Since: 10 Feb 2014
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 2238

2002 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Keswick Green

Could be the transponder pick up coil around the ignition barrel (presuming it has one to start with)

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22nd Feb 2015 5:06pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

yep could be the ring , sure a 2012 will have one

really did to test with standard fob , if it all works ring must be working

22nd Feb 2015 5:09pm

dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
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Re: Key remote issues

SGH wrote:
I bought a while back one of these keys with integral fob but it does not seem to work as it should. Once vehicle is unlocked and started if I switch ignition off I need to re-lock the vehicle then unlock for it to be able to start.

Anyone else had this issue ?

I was planning on getting from Brendan one of the flip key and fob and don't want to experience same issues if it's a issue with just my vehicle.

Simon

you need to reset the AS10 Alarm ECU....

IMHO isn't the fob.

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22nd Feb 2015 5:25pm

SGH

Member Since: 27 Sep 2010
Location: Hellingly-Sussex
Posts: 1527

I will take a look tomorrow tipping it down here now.

Yes it has the coil but that has been moved slightly due to fitting XENG lock shroud but key never worked correctly before coil was moved.

No issue with standard key and fob that works just fine. 993 Varioram - Guards Red
Defender 2.5 300TDI 110 HCP - Keswick Green
Defender 2.2 TDCI 130 HCP - Orkney Grey - GONE
Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE LUX - Corris Grey/Black Pack - GONE
Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE LUX - Montaciano Red/Black Pack - GONE

22nd Feb 2015 5:32pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20613

Is it doing it all the time or is the immobiliser arming itself first. (Red flash on dash)

22nd Feb 2015 5:41pm

SGH

Member Since: 27 Sep 2010
Location: Hellingly-Sussex
Posts: 1527

Steve with the all in one key it only works once to start the car second time it's immobilised so have to lock unlock and then start. 993 Varioram - Guards Red
Defender 2.5 300TDI 110 HCP - Keswick Green
Defender 2.2 TDCI 130 HCP - Orkney Grey - GONE
Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE LUX - Corris Grey/Black Pack - GONE
Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE LUX - Montaciano Red/Black Pack - GONE

22nd Feb 2015 5:42pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

99.9% sure its the chip in the key

has it always done it right from the start with the one piece key?

22nd Feb 2015 6:00pm

SGH

Member Since: 27 Sep 2010
Location: Hellingly-Sussex
Posts: 1527

Yes done it from day 1 993 Varioram - Guards Red
Defender 2.5 300TDI 110 HCP - Keswick Green
Defender 2.2 TDCI 130 HCP - Orkney Grey - GONE
Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE LUX - Corris Grey/Black Pack - GONE
Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE LUX - Montaciano Red/Black Pack - GONE

22nd Feb 2015 6:16pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

sounds like its the wrong key internals for the later alarm units

maybe for the older units as fitted to rover 200's etc , they done same thing , you had to push buttom after imob cut in

22nd Feb 2015 6:32pm

SGH

Member Since: 27 Sep 2010
Location: Hellingly-Sussex
Posts: 1527

I got this from group buy on here quite a while back from dgardel I seem to recall. Mine is a 2.2 I guess I must have been only one to have an issue. 993 Varioram - Guards Red
Defender 2.5 300TDI 110 HCP - Keswick Green
Defender 2.2 TDCI 130 HCP - Orkney Grey - GONE
Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE LUX - Corris Grey/Black Pack - GONE
Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE LUX - Montaciano Red/Black Pack - GONE

22nd Feb 2015 6:50pm

Lorryman100

Member Since: 01 Oct 2010
Location: Here
Posts: 2686

Simon, try a fob re-synch of the 10AS and see if that helps. On the key fob press unlock then lock 4 times within range of the 10AS.

22nd Feb 2015 7:28pm

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