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SGH



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I have Xeng shroud on mine so need to get my key cancelled then as just sent it to Brendan. Sad 993 Varioram - Guards Red
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SGH



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ZeDefender wrote:
I know this is a one-off and I don't know if it's been discussed elsewhere but if you have an X-Eng ignition barrel sleeve, the key isn't long enough to go in all the way and turn (at least on mine). Please correct me if it works on others. In any case I didn't ask for refund because it's my problem Wink
All I did was put the circuit board back into the original fob and chalk it up to experience Thumbs Up

Matt


Matt did you get your key from Nakatanenga ? 993 Varioram - Guards Red
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Yes, a few weeks ago.
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But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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Sad 993 Varioram - Guards Red
Defender 2.5 300TDI 110 HCP - Keswick Green
Defender 2.2 TDCI 130 HCP - Orkney Grey - GONE
Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE LUX - Corris Grey/Black Pack - GONE
Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE LUX - Montaciano Red/Black Pack - GONE
Post #403291 1st Mar 2015 10:47am
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Lorryman100



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@ZeDefender. Matt when you fitted the barrel shroud did you ensure the face of the ignition was tight against the shroud?? The reason I am asking is that I have one of these key fobs and it definitely works on my Puma with a X Eng ignition barrel shield fitted?

Key inserted in Off position


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Ignition in position 2


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Puma started and idling


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Close up of key fob and ignition


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HTH :thumbsup:

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ZeDefender



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Yes, it's tight up against it. I suspect it might be a bit hit-and-miss depending on your key... Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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ZeDefender



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Germany 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Baltic Blue
I just double-checked and there is less than 1/2 mm gap:
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Is this a different ignition barrel design to yours?
My original key is quite a bit longer and I don't know the tolerances but even if some keys just catch and turn I still wouldn't take the risk of getting stranded, as some Puma locks are a bit "iffy".
I couldn't see any way of modifying it and since Nak had kept up their end of the bargain, I just binned it. Luckily the original key and the empty fob are sent back with the flip so it only took a few seconds to put everything back to normal.

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But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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Lorryman100



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When I originally fitted the shroud I noticed there was a couple of mil clearance from the LR key and the shroud


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And when I measured the LR key the shank length is 45mm, the new fob shank is exactly the same length hence why I have had no issues with the Nakatanenga key fob and the X Eng barrel shroud.


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HTH :thumbsup:

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ZeDefender



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Rolling Eyes bloody LR Laughing
Although, admittedly, I no longer have the Nakatanenga key to measure it. I discounted the possibility of it being cut badly as it unlocked the door. It was definitely shorter though as I checked at the time. Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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Any chance of another batch going ahead?
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Whilst this may be a convenient and handy modification does anybody actually consider the security implications in the event of key theft?

K9F wrote:
By combining your key and 10as fob into one convenient unit you are effectively removing a potential security layer on your Defender. The 10as fob should in theory never be kept on the same keyring as your key. Lose one or the other your Defender still has a layer left, lose the combined unit and it's self explanatory. The most basic principles of security are quite often overlooked for convenience. With the increase reported in burglaries and the associated theft of keys why make it easier for them?


Just my 2 pennethworth. Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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Although I agree with your point. How many people actually keep them separate? My guess is very, very few.
I have enough trouble finding one set of keys, let alone two. They are of course always where I left them!! Very Happy Very Happy
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Any interest out there in getting another group together for more fobs?
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I am interested in this for my 110. 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
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Count me in please.
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