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Cheshire110



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HELP Battery light, rev meter, Rev hang
I have a strange electrical gremlin I suspect-

Engine starts fine and all works inside (radio, lights, etc etc)

However after a second to a minute the battery light goes on, revs drop to zero (on the gauge, still runs fine) and the temp gauge flies up to the top. If you push the throttle then it hangs the revs. Taking a few seconds before returning to idle.

got to be an electrical gremlins but don't know where to start, any ideas? Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
Post #385295 5th Jan 2015 10:26pm
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ickle



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Chassis to bulkhead earth strap?

You could run a extra earth between the battery and bulkhead and see if this cures it.

Keith
Post #385302 5th Jan 2015 10:37pm
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Cheshire110



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Don't think so, wouldn't that just affect starting? It starts fine at the moment but I'll give it a quick look too. Cheers, David
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Post #385305 5th Jan 2015 10:41pm
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blackwolf



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The first thing I would check is that all the relays under the driver's seat are secure and tight in their sockets. A poor connection on them can cause wierd effects, though more usually a failure to start. Then I'd check that the ECU is properly earthed still. After that, I'd ask for advice on here!
Post #385306 5th Jan 2015 10:42pm
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ickle



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I think the starter is earthed via the chassis, not the bulkhead, I'd suspect a bad earth connection deteriorating as it warms up or extra load is applied at this time of year.

If it does it whilst stationary, clip a jump lead between neg on the battery and an earth point on the bulkhead and see if it stops.

Keith
Post #385309 5th Jan 2015 10:46pm
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Cheshire110



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Thanks for that, I'll have a look.

The few ideas I had in my head were relays, fuses, etc. keep any ideas coming please! Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
Post #385310 5th Jan 2015 10:47pm
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Cheshire110



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ickle wrote:
I think the starter is earthed via the chassis, not the bulkhead, I'd suspect a bad earth connection deteriorating as it warms up or extra load is applied at this time of year.

If it does it whilst stationary, clip a jump lead between neg on the battery and an earth point on the bulkhead and see if it stops.

Keith


Will do, thanks. Good thinking!


Will report back on all the above soon. Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
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munch90



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davidwhittaker wrote:
Don't think so, wouldn't that just affect starting? It starts fine at the moment but I'll give it a quick look too.


no earth from battery goes to chassis then to engine , so starting could be fine , like said im sure there is a earth to bulkhead from the chassis

think it could be drivers side down under brake master cyl , not 100% but rings a bell
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carrotbay



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I had some odd electrical occurrences similar to this when I had a wifi ODBII dongle plugged in. Try unplugging your ultraguage and see if you still have the issue. 2008 Defender 110 XS SW - M57N2 / 6HP28X
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sparkylee



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Haven't you just plugged in a reader into the port and loosened it to hang up behind cover ?
My betting is around that area
Good luck
I too am suffering the gremlins but 12 days left on warranty so off to dealers Thursday It's good to be back from the dark side


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Post #385333 5th Jan 2015 11:37pm
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Cheshire110



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FIXED!!!
Yes, unplugged the UG, started fine & all worked perfectly!

Weird that!!!

Plugged it back again and still working fine so, bizarre!

Thanks for the advice guys as always, suspect I wouldve had much difficulty solving that if it wasn't for you guys. Thumbs Up


One to remember for all you UG users! Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
Post #385340 5th Jan 2015 11:54pm
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Lorryman100



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This happens occasionally with anything plugged into the OBD socket, especially for a period of time. Though i have only seen it with diagnostic tools and not with the likes of scan gauge or ultra Gauge? Have you pushed the OBD plug out of its socket? If so you may be stressing the plug connections. Have a look at my post half way down the below url,

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic23232....+gauge+red
Post #385361 6th Jan 2015 12:40am
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Cheshire110



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Good point,lorryman, thanks. I'll have a look tomorrow at how I can protect it.

Cheers for the help again, everyone. Fixed within an hour or so.

Don't think even a dealer wouldve figured it out that quickly! Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
Post #385363 6th Jan 2015 12:54am
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Just a thought .. which way did you route the cable to the UG from the ODB? It was suggested that my issues seamed to be some sort of interference with the immobiliser ring around the ignition barrel. It may be worth trying it routed the other side of the steering column. Of course this could be Censored but worth a go. 2008 Defender 110 XS SW - M57N2 / 6HP28X
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Cheshire110



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I did route it round the left actually, near the ignition barrel/column. Will have a look for a safer route tomorrow!

Thanks Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
Post #385365 6th Jan 2015 1:06am
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