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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347   
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Its not the much talked about axle weld failure is it? Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197
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7th Jan 2015 8:17pm |
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| zone30 Member Since: 07 Sep 2012 Location: Gent Posts: 669  
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Hope not. Will hear tomorrow for sure but don't think so as it's still driveble, just nit safely.
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7th Jan 2015 9:23pm |
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| zone30 Member Since: 07 Sep 2012 Location: Gent Posts: 669
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Just got a call: like I suspected, a wheel bearing, which they don't have in stock (
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Should I consider buying a spare and replacing the other side (or all others for that matter) or is this just an anomaly after only 55k miles? |
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8th Jan 2015 2:10pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 
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guessing its where they have gone over to the sealed style bearing rather than the oil fed set up and there not putting enough grease in at the factory
not long ago I just took the drive flange off , took out outer bearing added more grease then put back together |
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8th Jan 2015 3:00pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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Zone, when it comes to drivetrain or suspension it should always be done as a pair front or rear) in my opinion. I learnt a harsh lesson by replacing just one track rod end, the other snapped on me reversing less than a week later.
 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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8th Jan 2015 3:09pm |
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| zone30 Member Since: 07 Sep 2012 Location: Gent Posts: 669
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As this one is under warranty (and if another one breaks, it will be too), I'm going to wait a few months for better weather and replace them all. I have HD flanges laying around waiting for installation anyway.
I agree on having both sides replaces as the other side has had the same mileage and is probably waiting to break as well. Would it be smart to keep the old bearings as a backup, just in case it happens again when out there in the field, or discart them all together as once removed they are "broken" anayway. If yes, I grease them, tag them and just stash them with the other junk I'm always carrying arround. Based on munch90's reply I presume yes. At least it would be good practice and if stranded I know how to solve it. How long should a well greased bearing last? After how many miles would it be smart to grease them the munch90's way to extend longevety? When do you propose the replace them proactively so chances are slim it would happen again. This time it was good timing as I was almost home and done for the evening, but if it were to happen in the morning I probably loose a lot of time and therefor money as I get paid by the hour. Lots of questions... sorry  |
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8th Jan 2015 3:44pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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I would want to know whats gone wrong with old brg
has the track surface broke up , never seen one that wasn't noisy for a while also they have to get really bad before you can feel any play and hence noisy for a long time before inner / outer part of brg broke ? seized then turned on stub axle and chewed away giving play ? pretty rare your get brg problem with no noise first I would be pretty pi55ed off if I had a brg go at 55k miles Last edited by munch90 on 8th Jan 2015 4:11pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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8th Jan 2015 4:05pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17537 
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Wheel bearings are cheap, and I would never reuse one that has deteriorated to the point that it needs replacing. It is (in my opinion) worth having a spare hub overhaul kit (ie the bearings, oil seal, hub nut etc) on hand for when it is needed.
If you're fitting HD drive flanges I suggest that you also fit HD halfshafts, since otherwise the halfshaft splines will wear out and almost certainly damage the flanges when they fail. |
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8th Jan 2015 4:08pm |
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| zone30 Member Since: 07 Sep 2012 Location: Gent Posts: 669
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I was told that because HD flanges go over the splines more, they wear out slower.
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8th Jan 2015 5:52pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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Same thing if there greased they last , ive had land rovers 30 odd years , never changed a w/brg never even had to adjust one only when doing disc,s , never changed or had any excessive play in a drive flange
any dry spline will wear , look at the main to t/box coupling touch wood !!!!  |
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8th Jan 2015 6:06pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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I would ask for the old brg as i would want to know what caused it failure
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8th Jan 2015 6:08pm |
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| zone30 Member Since: 07 Sep 2012 Location: Gent Posts: 669
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Does a new bearing need breaking in?
After a trip of 30 miles, last bit 2 miles at 50-60 mph, the flange feels just that little bit warmer then the others. Not hot by any means though. Thought I smelled a very faint hot grease smell as well in the car. Had a mechanic drive it through LR Assistance an he's not sure bearings do or do not need breaking in. Am I seeing ghost? Over-worried? Non-event? |
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9th Jan 2015 7:21pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17537
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No. It may have been shimmed incorrectly (too tight). Needs checking and rectifying.
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9th Jan 2015 11:24pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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I think personally all bearings should have a " breaking in " running in period for a while to polish surfaces before heavy or maxium load , not always easy to do I know
certainly with a adjustable w/brg or one that someone else has shimmed I would be keeping a close eye on it , if it was mine , saying that no one else would be doing it apart from me ive always worked for family business but gone to other garages on a advisory capacity , fault finding , etc and seen some real dodgy work I would say after being in the trade for 30ish years there is only 1 or 2 people I would trust to work on my own vehicle and a main dealer is not one of them ive had one experience of warrentry work on a defender of mine and it was a total cock up , ended up redoing it and the damage done myself , never again , saying that there must be some good "fitters" ( not mechanics ) in them I would want to know , shimmed up correctly ? , does w/brg kit come with grease , was more added ? was there any damage to the hub/stub ? |
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10th Jan 2015 10:19am |
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