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Marius



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alisport (no name brand) intercooler
A local importing and selling alisport intercoolers phoned me to say the alisport coolers didnt arrive, but he did get equivalent ones at a cheaper price. He says they are just as good, just branded with his companies branding. Fittings are all identical to fit the defender. He mentions it just doesnt have a shiny strip on top and bottom of cooler? In any other way he claims they are identical.......

Will go have a look at them tomorrow. Perhaps they are fine....? What shall I look out for in terms of judging if its a good cooler?
Post #332243 20th May 2014 10:17am
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K9F



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If they are branded with his company name he must know who makes them. Allisport are/were synonamous with quality and you invariably pay for what you get. If he claims it was Allisport who made them......check with them direct!
Chiptech Intercoolers are also very good and they do brand theirs with company logos if requested but the design and manufacturing are identical to their own branded ones.
The decision is really yours but why compromise? Welds are obviously important, the forming of them, no splatter etc....as for the internals you will have no idea what you're getting.

Me personally I would pay the extra and run with a well-proven make. Don't rush just because he doesn't have what you were after. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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gilarion



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Alisport for me I have never had any issues with them. You get what you pay for and Alisport are top quality, buy a brand that you know people have tried and tested.
As far as I know Alisport do not make inter-coolers for anyone else!
Post #332259 20th May 2014 11:37am
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Marius



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South Africa 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Keswick Green
ok done - imported the allisport from the UK in the end. Cost is basically the same as the Alisport would have cost from the local guy in any case.
Post #332274 20th May 2014 12:44pm
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Marius, you won't regret it, esp in our summer!

You will find yourself looking for a 7th gear. Or an 8th, if you have the BAS remap.

Just a word of caution: some people will tell you this is a 2-hour DIY job. I recommend you take it to your indie and save yourself the hassle --
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Post #332296 20th May 2014 1:42pm
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K9F



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If you do have the time, inclination and money to pay for someone else to do it Naks is correct about the two hours. I fitted my own simply because I wanted to, it was my vehicle and I would take my time and pay more attention to detail. I also had air conditioning to contend with, an awkward stud that wouldn't budge and stainless steel pipes to fit. Well worth the effort.....

K9F wrote:
12 hours to strip and fit, claret all over the engine bay due to hands being cut to shreds, but am I happy? Hell yes!......
 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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johnszs



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Most likely that would be a serek intercooler.

I got a chiptech on mine from alive tuning, it took just over 5hrs to fit including new samcos and alit of swearing to get the bonnet to re align with the catch. I believe if i didnt have ac and a winch spots etc i could of knocked about a hour off 2004 TD5 Defender 90 xs station wagon
Post #332400 20th May 2014 7:31pm
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Fatboy Slim



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Re: alisport (no name brand) intercooler
Marius wrote:
A local importing and selling alisport intercoolers phoned me to say the alisport coolers didnt arrive, but he did get equivalent ones at a cheaper price. He says they are just as good, just branded with his companies branding. Fittings are all identical to fit the defender. He mentions it just doesnt have a shiny strip on top and bottom of cooler? In any other way he claims they are identical.......

Will go have a look at them tomorrow. Perhaps they are fine....? What shall I look out for in terms of judging if its a good cooler?


Can't possibly be any worse than an allisport intercooler, was very very disappointed with the one I had: Rotted to death and only fit for scrap after 6500 miles Evil or Very Mad Never again Evil or Very Mad
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Post #332577 21st May 2014 5:34pm
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K9F



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From an old thread. I decided personally not to go with Alisport at that time. Maybe you got one from their irksome period perhaps?

K9F wrote:
Availability may be the key here perhaps? I personally despite hearing good reviews about Alisport decided to steer clear as I heard unconfirmed rumours that they were struggling to meet demand and that they were in desperate need of recruiting decent aluminium Tig welders. At the same time they pulled their E-Bay advertising. I also did a lot of research and phoning round before committing to buy the one I did!

Do a bit of digging first and see what's about!
 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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I am inclined to think that this is not (only) a case of corrosion. The fins are aluminium. They can corrode (though I´d wonder why they should do faster than anyone´s else). There is aluminium I think which is more resistant to salt than other.
But still - corrosion turns aluminium to white powder. In the pics there are fins which were bent.
Could it be there was sth. mechanical done to them ? Like:


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Fatboy Slim



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Sadly not, just bent from airflow because they are so weak from corrosion. I had an Allard intercooler on my other Td5 at the time and that is now on over 160,000 miles without any problems..........
Post #332636 21st May 2014 8:54pm
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Marius



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The intercooler I bought seems to be a newly developed one.

http://bellautoservices.co.uk/store/defend...?menuid=44
Post #332693 22nd May 2014 4:49am
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Mine too - took less than 4 hours for me to fit and a lot of that was from dropping the bonnet and jiggering the slam panel. The trick is to use two nuts to get the studs out. Then it's easy.
I wonder if the new design slots in easier Confused
*edit* doh - BAS website says it was designed to Embarassed Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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Marius



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im sure i will find out, but what studs?
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