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FOOTEY



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Scotland 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Tamar Blue
VeeTee suggested interior light controled from alarm ecu ? I have no alarm.
I'll look for green box and get back on that.
I cant read your page properly but this is may be beyond me. Hope not reallly greatful for all input from you guys Bow down

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Post #309375 18th Feb 2014 9:47pm
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I have the same problem.... Also no alarm (genuine alarm has been disabled, and after market immobiliser installed, all by previous owner) - my interior lights do work on manual switch but do not respond to door switches... Cheers, Vincent
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FOOTEY



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Do they respond when ignition on?
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That probably explains it then.... I have an alarm on mine, if both of yours behaves in the same way then you'll know why it works in that way. You could always wire it yourself though to behave in the way you want it to though.. No Guts, No Glory.
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custom90steve wrote:
Is there any possibility the live feed from the 10AS has been intercepted so to speak meaning it's ignition switched rather than from the AS?
There is certainly more than meets they eye to this, there is either a system fault a possible short or it's been fiddled with.
I've done quite a bit of work on the interior lighting system and never encountered an issue from the 10AS ever.



Thanks Steve
the previous owner was aware of fault at least he offered the tale told by L.R.{ allegedly } farmers leaving door open etc so may be system fault but cant rule out a fiddle somewhere.
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custom90steve wrote:
That probably explains it then.... I have an alarm on mine, if both of yours behaves in the same way then you'll know why it works in that way. You could always wire it yourself though to behave in the way you want it to though..


Yes Steve YOU may be able to wire it to bahave as desired but your dealing with a novice at this level, How about you VeeTee!
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Lorryman100 wrote:
Does the interior light dim before it goes out completely or is it either on or off?

Also remove the right side speaker next to the fusebox and have a look up the bulkhead for a green box with 2 plugs. It looks the same as the pic below but on the right side as the pic depicts a LH drive.


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Hi lorryman
there is a green box

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FOOTEY wrote:
custom90steve wrote:
That probably explains it then.... I have an alarm on mine, if both of yours behaves in the same way then you'll know why it works in that way. You could always wire it yourself though to behave in the way you want it to though..


Yes Steve YOU may be able to wire it to bahave as desired but your dealing with a novice at this level, How about you VeeTee!


Rewiring is not that complicated I think, but as I have just replaced the roof lining a short time ago (and forgot to address the problem then), I am a bit hesitating to start again with that. It is not the first on my priority list right now. Wink Cheers, Vincent
1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold)
1970 M416 Military Trailer (Camping Trailer Conversion), Epsom Green (sold)
1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold)
1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold)
2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold)
2006 Freelander 1 TD4 5-drs Facelift Automatic, Tonga Green (sold)

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Post #309803 20th Feb 2014 7:17am
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As the 10AS is present I would plug in a diagnostic tool and check the settings page before attempting to rewire the interior light. The first thing I would check is that the interior light smart option and the welcome light are set to enabled. I would have been surprised if there was no 10AS fitted as it is needed to allow a couple of other things to work on a standard Puma, as it is not just an alarm unit. Thumbs Up


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FOOTEY



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Thanks Lorreyman
I'm off to blag a shot on the local dealers diag tool.Will let you know Very Happy
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Lorryman100 wrote:
As the 10AS is present I would plug in a diagnostic tool and check the settings page before attempting to rewire the interior light. The first thing I would check is that the interior light smart option and the welcome light are set to enabled. I would have been surprised if there was no 10AS fitted as it is needed to allow a couple of other things to work on a standard Puma, as it is not just an alarm unit. Thumbs Up


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Hi
just back from Greenbank 4x4 independant L.R. specialists where Ewan employed his diag box. It seems I HAVE an alarm {disabled} but NO KEY FOB sorry I should have made that more clear. Went through a pretty thorough look but it was not playing Even though he programed a fob was unable to smart the interior light. Suggested a possible ECU fault. I can see the logic as to why the interior lights are linked to alarm. Bought with 2 non fob keys so must have come from factory that way but would assume this must be re-programable? Advised to bring back for further investigation. Very helpful guy spent a good 30 mins on it. Any help before I book it in?. Thanks to you and the others for taking an interest. Bow down :bow:

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Check the ignition barrel for the transducer coil. Whether it is fitted or not will determine the settings required to be programmed into the 10AS module Thumbs Up

No transducer coil:


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With transducer coil fitted:


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HTH

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Brian - If you don't mind me asking, the page above, what sort of diagnostics displays that info and settings? A basic tool certainly doesn't or is that some mind of software linked up to a laptop? No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #310118 20th Feb 2014 11:51pm
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That was taken from the 10AS settings page from a BBS MSV2 diagnostic tool linked up to my toughbook. The MSV allows access to all the modules on a Puma and allows new settings to be written direct, which can cause major issues if you dont know what you are doing.


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HTH :thumbsup:

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Looks interesting, but not to be fiddled with! Laughing I was rather worried about the mods I added to the lighting circuit especially the 10AS controlled causing some undesirable effects but I knew wiring wise and electrically everything was sound and accurate and everything worked brilliant from that day to this.
I now have my own custom lighting including the interior light all in sync with the system, I'm so pleased I'd be lost without it! No Guts, No Glory.
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