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custom90



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Battery going flat!!!
hello i have only had my 57 plate 90 Puma for about 5 weeks and it keeps getting the battery flat if its not started every day basically. its all standard except spot lamps (wired by LR dealer) and also a kenwood Dvd/cd player which is only plugged into the standard wiring like oringinal radio. I am tending to think this is a battery disscharge problem? i can get the little engine heater coil come up when starting but when you turn to start engine clicks and thats it but after battery has been taken out and charged by a charger it will start perfect. i thought i'd ask here because i don't want to take radio out if it's the battery thats playing up or vice versa i would hate for it to be the dvd because i love that thing. thanks
Post #24725 20th Feb 2010 3:37pm
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Grockle



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that must be an early factory shakedown model being on a 1927 plate,so the battary hasn't done bad eh :whistle:did something just get changed Wink











the radio has a permanent feed but it shouldn't flatten the battary,possably a short somewhere. 2.4 90 XS
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Post #24727 20th Feb 2010 3:39pm
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Glynparry25



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You sure the alternator is working good?

Battery problems I would go down the route of

A. Alternator- are you draning the battery as you drive.
B. Battery itself (If it has been discharged a few times too many it won't keep a charge for long)
C. Other drains such as lights still on, stereo not turning off etc.

Glyn
Post #24728 20th Feb 2010 4:12pm
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custom90



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yes it went flat once before and it's only on starting running is fine. the radio has a security LED surely not that?? every thing seems perfect to me lamps were LR fitted and radio is just plug and play and you can manually have it turned off anyway had it in other cars no prob at all Question
Post #24729 20th Feb 2010 4:28pm
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Glynparry25



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Sonds like the battery to me then. Have it 'drop tested', this will show if it is Censored or not.

Glyn
Post #24737 20th Feb 2010 7:29pm
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Michael S



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Tonga Green
I had a faulty central locking solenoid on my 110 which ran the battery flat sometimes but not others. Could be worth the getting your dealer to take a look if you have central locking.

Michael
Post #24739 20th Feb 2010 8:33pm
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Ammeter!
If you're technically able....

Disconnect the positive lead from the battery and if you have a multimeter to hand or can borrow one select it to Amps and then connect it between the disconnected positive lead and the positive terminal on your battery. It should only read milliamps at best. Any more and you will know that there is either a short circuit or a system is drawing sufficient current to flatten your battery. By a simple process of pulling fuses you can tell what circuit it is.
If none of the above as mentioned check the voltage output of your alternator if around 14 volts go buy a new battery or get a capacitance check carried out on it!.

Halfords if you have one near enough has a gadget that can tell if your battery if fooked in seconds, head there if possible.

Hope this helps. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #24763 21st Feb 2010 10:56am
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jammyk



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Similar symptom
Definately follow the advice of the thread here. Make sure that you also test the battery current (disconnecting the positive lead and placing your ammeter in-inline) with the doors closed and the alarm armed.

This way you will replicate what happens when you leave the vehicle locked and unattended.

My 08MY 110 is currently with the dealers for the same symptom.

Having done the simple earth drain and voltage checks, including a new battery, the vehicle still refuses to start if left for more than 2 days idle. LR still investigating. numerous home start callouts identified the issue so now its over the the dealer....

will post more as i hear about it. ignorance is bliss...
Post #24847 22nd Feb 2010 2:24pm
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custom90



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i have bought a multi meter today so i'll try that. problem is i dont want to take every thing off (radio all that) to find the batterys had it or vise versa. what is the draw supposed to be when idle parked if any?
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willy eckerslike



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Keswick Green
Don't forget to Frig the bonnet alarm Thumbs Up Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
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custom90



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willy eckerslike wrote:
Don't forget to Frig the bonnet alarm Thumbs Up


??? what is the draw supposed to be when idle parked if any?
Post #24861 22nd Feb 2010 4:43pm
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K9F



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Not Much!
Engine off, doors shut and alarm set, the current draw should still only be milliamps (maybe 250ma? This is a guess of course but certainly no more than that) as it should only be the alarm, clock and radio presets that would be supplied. If any more start pulling fuses to determine what circuit is drawing the current.
For example if you've got a 40 ampere hour battery and the vehicle is drawing 0.8 amp in 50 hours your battery will be as flat as a dodo!

Good luck! If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #24862 22nd Feb 2010 4:51pm
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custom90



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could it be anything to do with imobiliser by any chance? ive never tried locking unlocking ect
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custom90



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i have just tried a multimeter and with my spot lamps wired in its 0.18Ma and iwthout its 0.02Ma could this be it?
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Sonic3d



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Isn`t it still under warranty??
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