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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816   
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This stuff? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Liqui-Moly-3312-Si...one+grease You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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15th Aug 2013 5:30pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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It is ok Evo passivation isn't able to stop the corrosion my old 8700 after 2years was perfect (the secrets is do not damage the black paint with the ring), the new evo made oxidations after 2 months. I had to put the silicòn grease. By the way, nolden case quality seems better..... If you look closer the JWS, in my opinion, the company have quality problems and not all pieces was made with the same precision (eg different beam pattern) Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition 
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15th Aug 2013 5:39pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586
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http://www.blacklandy.eu/blboard/forum/sho...LED/page13
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15th Aug 2013 6:07pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Anybody else cared to check the backside of their Speaker 8700 EVO's for eventual reaction with the SS rings and corrosion?
We now already know that Daniele had such corrosion after 2 months which is no good. I intend to order a tube of this Liqui Moly silicone grease to avoid corrosion to start. (Hopefully there is none yet, cross fingers). I also have the SS rings which seem to react with the alu of the Speakers, but have not checked yet, which will do during next service two weeks from now. In the meantime think this thread is worthwhile to keep alive, so if others have bothered to check, would be good to hear result, and this could be indicative of how serious a problem it is. We talk about very expensive upgrade equipment here which many of us have bought, so worth doing all we can to identify risk and take preventive or corrective action.  You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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17th Aug 2013 5:18pm |
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| Killer90 Site Sponsor Member Since: 09 Oct 2011 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 6478  
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I have a pair of the river runner JW speaker sidelights here which have completely corroded up
Apart from that they are the nuts CSK Automotive
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17th Aug 2013 5:30pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Not good  You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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17th Aug 2013 5:32pm |
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| Killer90 Site Sponsor Member Since: 09 Oct 2011 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 6478
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i might rub them down and paint them colour coded for the trayback  CSK Automotive
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17th Aug 2013 5:43pm |
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| Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2645 
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same on backs of mine... well corroded
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17th Aug 2013 8:12pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Think alarm bells are starting to go off here, even if we sofar have only limited nbr of confirmations that these Speaker 8700EVO do corrode when in contact with steel or stainless steel rings.
Time for someone to start thinking of what we can do to either still avoid this corrosion from happening, or if it already is happening, what can be done to stop it to deteriorate the rear of the lamps further. Only thing we have seen sofar is that Daniele (dgardel) advised to use silicone grease in between the rings and the lamp, but is that sufficient action, especially to stop a process which is going on already. Silicone grease good enough? Can it also stop already started/progressing corrosion? Are there other things that can be done, etc....... As said I will have mine checked in a few weeks now, will let you know then. I also think that Tim of Mobile Centre who is the or a major importer, has to wake up to this concern, and take the bull by the horns if necessary. Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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17th Aug 2013 8:46pm |
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| Welshsurferdude Member Since: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Newport Posts: 2419 
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I have Nolden LED Headlights on mine and I have dunked them in deep mud etc and done a winter in these so I will check them as I kept my original headlight rings and they are rusty so need to replace them anyway! 2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold)
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17th Aug 2013 8:50pm |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3786  
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I don't think anyone was having a go at a sponsor. Speaker lights appear to have an awesome reputation, but if there was an issue with them, then I'm sure that the sponsor, who also has an awesome reputation, would want to know about it.
Cheers, Pickles. |
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18th Aug 2013 2:41am |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Pickles, not sure if you are responding to any particular post in this thread, but you are correct. I think a huge number of people have paid significant money for these Speakers, and would expect them to be as high quality manufacturing standard as has been advocated. If now it appears that there is an issue with multiple users having them corroding, it indeed is important that this gets known, and that those marketing them (Speaker/importer/distributor) are made aware of this so that they can define their actions. So in the first place it is important that other users who will check their installed lamps will report back here, be it positive or negative. Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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18th Aug 2013 4:18am |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3786
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eric....that is exactly what I was trying to say.
Cheers, Pickles. |
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18th Aug 2013 9:11am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Forum Sponsor's response seems quite clear - "if corrosion affects the operation of the lamp subject to normal criteria we will exchange the lamp for a new one." and implies the corrosion itself is not a warranty issue. |
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18th Aug 2013 2:16pm |
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