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markespark



Member Since: 20 Sep 2012
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2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Indus Silver
Trouble selecting gear
Hi everyone, I've just bought my first 90 - 2003 model, I know the gearboxes arnt the best Very Happy -I've had many discovery's in my time to realise that !

The past few days its been a nightmare to get into gear especially reverse (having to go in to first gear to move the car) then eventually going into reverse, driving along has become awkward, I have ordered some Evolution 1 oil for the gearbox.
The only thing I've done is change the transfer box oil for EP 80/90 - could this have caused my problem ??

Your thoughts would be appreciated

Mark
Post #170491 24th Sep 2012 6:25pm
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Nick T



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Check the grub screw on the selctor.
Post #170492 24th Sep 2012 6:37pm
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twopoint6khz



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Java Black
The stock oil gets very thick at low temps (below about 10°C anyway) and makes gear selection a bar steward until the 'box has warmed up. I'm about to swap mine out for some Evo1 (equivalent) so I don't have to double-declutch into second gear Rolling Eyes
Post #170505 24th Sep 2012 7:11pm
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wslr



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MTF94 should be used which is very thin. Anything too thick and you'll get problems with selection.

These boxes don't like getting too hot either, as they can do on the D2 with all that foam/plastic soundproofing around it and the engine. Some farmers find that the boxes won't come out of 5th easily when running up the M5 slip roads - Usually with 5 tonnes of livestock on the back. Laughing That's due to heat.
Post #170563 24th Sep 2012 8:36pm
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markespark



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Thanks for the replies - I'm going to wait till I get the EVO 1 in the box, I checked the selector - all seems tight & fine.
To be fair I haven't really been on a run with it recently (less than 6 miles) & having just bought the truck I've no idea what's in the box at the mo so fingers crossed Smile
Post #170579 24th Sep 2012 8:51pm
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wslr



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It can be that either some DIYer got their oil choice from a mate at the pub, or it was taken to a 'Specialist' who hasn't moved on from the 1990's. Very common I'm afraid.
Post #170582 24th Sep 2012 8:56pm
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markespark



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I hoping that's the case Thumbs Up
Post #170583 24th Sep 2012 8:59pm
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megatoad



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
I bought an 06 110 from the local dealer last year with only 13k on the clock and it had the same issue, the engineer drove it and said the gate was blocking the gears and they put a whole new box in on extended warranty.

That said it is back again as it was dripping oil, it appearsthey are going to have to replace the oil seal between the gearbox and transfer case, thank heavens I decided to extend the warranty again a few months ago. Smile
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markespark



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Just a quick update - had a good look today, decided to bleed the clutch - found some air in the system Smile bleed through some fresh fluid & all seems ok Very Happy

Just goes to show that often it's something simple Confused
Post #171379 27th Sep 2012 7:31pm
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megatoad



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
Great news, now you just need to change the clutch springs, as do I
Post #171394 27th Sep 2012 8:10pm
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Brewstop



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Zambezi Silver
I've been having the same symptoms as the OP with the gearbox on my 2002 TD5 CSW, I too have ordered some Evo 1 oil for mechanical sympathys sake.

I've seen in another thread that air in the clutch can cause these problems and one of the remedies is to leave the clutch pedal partially depressed over night to allow the system to 'self bleed'.

I tried this last night and gear selection this morning from cold was much improved. I'm going to swap the gearbox oil this weekend, however, driving has become a lot less stressful.

Thank you Defender2, you are already saving me money and putting my mind at ease!
Post #180581 31st Oct 2012 9:40am
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LinDens90XS



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Hi Folks, 1st time replied on here.

Had same problem for quite a while and tried differing methods that failed to cure it, final time was stuck in 5th approaching roundabout, quite scary. friend had a look and suggested adjusting clutch pedal (I had been told by at least two people that it is not adjustable) he'd had a look and the two locking nuts had slowly worked their way loose, once tightened up correctly all is fine. Hope that helps.

Regards Dennis.
Post #182763 6th Nov 2012 10:53pm
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df1



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Having a slight issue with my gears also,

When going from second to third it seems vague or loose or something, that is when going up to third I have to move the gear lever around a bit from side to side to find the gear,.

Is there some kind of self centring spring on the lever that can go weak ?
Post #182776 7th Nov 2012 6:51am
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landy andy



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Yes there is a bias spring on the bottom of the stick/top of box that you can adjust, to align lever, so that it is straight forward to third, back to fourth.

Andy
Post #182781 7th Nov 2012 7:39am
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df1



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So it's just an adjustment and probably not a worn spring ?
Post #182865 7th Nov 2012 1:27pm
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