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The Boy



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Are tune detectable?
My 110 is in the dealers for some work but they emailed me t ask if I have ever had a tune in it? I said no (like you do) but then they ring me and ask me again & then ask me if I am sure? Are we sure that the dealers can’t see my vehicle has not been tuned in the past? Haven’t used a tune file for about 6 months at least and it was defo in standard format. I always been told that the dealers 100% cannot tell if it has ever been tuned but this guy is really making a big thing about it.
Post #127725 29th Feb 2012 5:07pm
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custom90



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I can't guarantee anything myself but I would imagine it would show up on the LR system. Seeing as their systems need to detect all the details mostly faults admittedly but I would also imagine fueling details ect ect. Anyone having re-maps done are bound to have the company say that it isn't traceable as not to put doubt in your mind and say no. The only tuning that I can think of that likely wouldn't leave any evidence would be the likes of the PSI tuning box which is removable and not mapped onto the vehicle ecu. Correct me if I'm wrong though. Thumbs Up
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The Boy



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Never happened before over the last four years (two vehs) and wondering why the fuss now but there again there is warrantee work being done.
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I don't think they can tell that your BAS tune as ever been on if it was put back to standard Thumbs Up
Pete or Gary will be along soon to clarify this Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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The Boy



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Pete has kindly emailed me to confirm that, which is a great relief.

It still gave me a fright though.
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custom90



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The Boy wrote:
Pete has kindly emailed me to confirm that, which is a great relief.

It still gave me a fright though.

Glad you've got it sorted and confirmed Thumbs Up It's probably due to warranty work that they want to know Thumbs Up
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The Boy wrote:
Pete has kindly emailed me to confirm that, which is a great relief.

It still gave me a fright though.


Never tell them sh-t ....thought they can't tell Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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The Boy wrote:
Pete has kindly emailed me to confirm that, which is a great relief.

It still gave me a fright though.

Although you have just confirmed on a public forum that you have had a remap... Neutral Darren

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The Boy



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fekete wrote:
The Boy wrote:
Pete has kindly emailed me to confirm that, which is a great relief.

It still gave me a fright though.


Never tell them sh-t ....thought they can't tell Thumbs Up


TBH this is the first time in the last five years they seem to be doing 90% of the warranty work I have asked them to do without an argument. Might be because the first MOT is due in a month or so.
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When you program the engine management, it disappears from view, and other vehicle systems, such as the instrument pack, will notice its missing. This will of course log a fault code on the instrument pack, which the land rover diagnostic system would clear during a programming procedure. However, as per the example above, the BAS box will only clear fault codes logged on the engine management, and not any other vehicle systems.

Exclamation There is a trail that the dealers can find easily, and there can't be many reasons as to why an engine management system would disappear from the loop, especially when it's electrical connectors are secured in place with a shear bolt. Exclamation
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T1G UP



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Alive Tuning wrote:
When you program the engine management, it disappears from view, and other vehicle systems, such as the instrument pack, will notice its missing. This will of course log a fault code on the instrument pack, which the land rover diagnostic system would clear during a programming procedure. However, as per the example above, the BAS box will only clear fault codes logged on the engine management, and not any other vehicle systems.

Exclamation There is a trail that the dealers can find easily, and there can't be many reasons as to why an engine management system would disappear from the loop, especially when it's electrical connectors are secured in place with a shear bolt. Exclamation
will the alive box clear the instrument log?
Post #127795 29th Feb 2012 7:19pm
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The Boy



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LandRoverAnorak wrote:
The Boy wrote:
Pete has kindly emailed me to confirm that, which is a great relief.

It still gave me a fright though.

Although you have just confirmed on a public forum that you have had a remap... Neutral


Not in a dealer near me and I can't see my name and adress anywhere?

4 weeks of warranty left then I don't really give a toss.

oh and four weeks ago I asked for a quote for a new 110 and they haven;t bothered to get back to me yet so if they are reading this pease send asp or I wil just keep the one I have) Laughing
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Of course .. it could be they were going to remap to latest LR spec and didnt want to wipe your personal remap.

Thats what my dealer said last time they Censored mine "sorry sir, we normally check for personal mapping first" ..... luckily IRB replaced it for free [with a better map too] Thumbs Up Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
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I'd imagine they'd have a fair idea after a test drive.
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Perhaps they thought they'd found one running sweetly for a change....

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