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| John110 Member Since: 20 Nov 2011 Location: Co. Meath Posts: 106   
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My God lads, I've spent the past few evenings reading through this section of the site and this thread has hit the nail on the head with my Puma
 We have had a cold snap over the past few days andIhave really noticed my Defender (2007) doing this. Rough on start up and smoke for a few seconds. I will give the 2SO a go before I get the spanners out 
How much should I add to each fill? Thanks Again for coming to my rescue 
Cheers John For those who understand, no explanation is needed... For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible |
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27th Mar 2013 9:24pm |
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| Egghead Member Since: 25 Nov 2012 Location: Surrey Posts: 255  
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Exactly the experiences I've been having over the last few days of cold. I had her serviced a few weeks back so I'm putting it down to general Land Rover behaviour. Once going she's still bloody wonderful but it puts a little pause in my heart when I start her up for the first time that's all. The blueish smoke is not prolonged and the sluggish startup is not really any worse than myself getting out of bed on such a morning
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27th Mar 2013 9:42pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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Check all the glow plugs..... Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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29th Mar 2013 12:23am |
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| Egghead Member Since: 25 Nov 2012 Location: Surrey Posts: 255
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Exactly what a friend of mine said.  |
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29th Mar 2013 12:07pm |
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| BigWheels Member Since: 21 Mar 2010 Location: Somerset Posts: 1405 
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Same problem here. Running on Sainsbury's diesel. I switched to Esso Super Diesel & problem gone. Much better at cold running, smoother, less rattles & resonance, better at low rpm traffic crawling as well. Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
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29th Mar 2013 12:59pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17469 
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My 07 Puma used to do this. Since installing a BAS no-EGR remap it doesn't do it anymore, and also starts more promptly and smoothly, without smoke, and runs far better.
Also goes like stink and is much more fun to drive! |
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29th Mar 2013 5:24pm |
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| mick Member Since: 08 Feb 2010 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 2109  
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Mine does it when it's below 5 degrees rattles it bits off even with a new Egr must be some thing to do with the electronics a few others have told me there's do it as well.
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29th Mar 2013 6:38pm |
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| Nick T Member Since: 29 May 2011 Location: Bolton Posts: 203 
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Mine has just come back from warranty work. This was one of the issues-had a "software update" no different. Fires on about 3rd turn, smokes then clear.
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30th Mar 2013 7:18am |
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| rossy Member Since: 29 Nov 2010 Location: Co. Roscommon Posts: 1296 
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Hi John you add 5ml of 2SO per litre of diesel. It must be a mineral JASO FB spec (not semi synthetic) - in fact the cheapest you can get. If you want to know why do a google search and there are thousands of posts on this subject ! Carplan motorcycle 2so from Tescos or B&Q is only € 6 for a litre bottle. Seems to be the cheapest. |
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30th Mar 2013 1:12pm |
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| John110 Member Since: 20 Nov 2011 Location: Co. Meath Posts: 106
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Thanks Rossy, I'll give that a go and see how I get on
Regards JOhn For those who understand, no explanation is needed... For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible |
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1st Apr 2013 7:21pm |
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| Photoguy1510 Member Since: 02 Apr 2013 Location: Wellington Posts: 25  
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Hi John
you add 5ml of 2SO per litre of diesel. It must be a mineral JASO FB spec (not semi synthetic) what will happen if you use semi synthetic 2so? First time I read this, will be the day I went and added 2so for the first time in my appliance.  I picked it as it stated low ash with cleaner to keep exhaust cleaner than traditional mineral based 2so. Also went for the most expensive I could get my paws on, lucky I only have it for another 5 days till the defender is ready for pickup.  was told to mix it 400:1 but 5ml/l (200:1)is double that. On another forum they recommended using marine 2so as it has rust inhibitor extra, meant to be good for those sticking valves. I'm not a mechanical engineer so just interested and hoping I did not ruin a fairly ok toy motor today. 2013 Orkney Grey 110 SE on order should be here on 20/04 |
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5th Apr 2013 7:39am |
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