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CR



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Bull Bar
Does anyone have any experience of the following bull bar from DOLIUM in Auz. ?

Is there a supplier in Europe ?



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Post #57175 6th Feb 2011 4:47pm
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Glynparry25



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Looks like a ARB/ TJM copy.... would be worried that it comes above the bonnet... and it is illegal to purchase a Bull/Roo bar manufactured after 2007 for on road use.

Hence why I purchased a old TJM:


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Other thing to think about is winch fitment.... the ARB/TJM will fit a wide variety of winches where that one looks like it will only fit a generic low line winch.

Just my 2c worth Mr. Green

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i got an ARB to go on my 90. won't fit at the mo due to the light guards getting in the way.

I have been led to believe this company will "supply" the parts to make a arb /tjm type bumper. Pic no. 20

http://www.pwsacc.co.uk/bumpers-winch-fitting.htm
Post #57191 6th Feb 2011 5:38pm
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AHHH - i saw a farmer with an "odd" winch bumper/bull bar - it was one of these.

So you must be able to get them in the UK Mike
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T1G UP wrote:
i got an ARB to go on my 90. won't fit at the mo due to the light guards getting in the way.

I have been led to believe this company will "supply" the parts to make a arb /tjm type bumper. Pic no. 20


I would be worried about the legality of that. The fines for manufacturing a bull bar is crazy high if found out.- unless only for off-road use.... I have had to remove the light guards to fit the TJM one.... otherwise for them to be compatible the bumper would have to stick a long way off the front of the wagon.

Other option would be to go for a A-bar type if you want to keep the light guards.

Glyn Dog Sheep
Post #57198 6th Feb 2011 5:44pm
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I dont think it will be a problem (legal) in Ireland on a commercial vehicle.
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CR wrote:
I dont think it will be a problem (legal) in Ireland on a commercial vehicle.


Unfortunatly it is European law for all vehicles.... the most you can get away with manufacturing now is winch bumpers with a small hoop on.

Stoopid European Laws Rolling Eyes

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A ton of posts on the legality of these (search and you find heaps of posts).

It isn't illegal to buy them, or indeed to fit them - only to manufacture them for non-specialised use. If you can find one, buy it and fit it Thumbs Up

They are allowed in winch bumpers or on vehicles that have a genuine need of one (commercial, farm, off-road...) so if you do much off road, you're probably fine. Regardless, owning and fitting isn't illegal - just manufacturing and selling Very Happy One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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alantd wrote:

It isn't illegal to buy them, or indeed to fit them - only to manufacture them for non-specialised use. If you can find one, buy it and fit it Thumbs Up


Couldn't put it in words better myself Thumbs Up

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So your insurance company was ok with the fitment of these bullbars, even though the vehicle is newer than the bullbar legislation of 2007? 2005 TD5 90 Hard Top

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chiefstoker wrote:
So your insurance company was ok with the fitment of these bullbars, even though the vehicle is newer than the bullbar legislation of 2007?


Probably until you kill someone and the actual insurance company come out! eg the loss adjuster and underwriter not the sales girl for the broker Mike
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[quote="mse"]
chiefstoker wrote:
So your insurance company was ok with the fitment of these bullbars, even though the vehicle is newer than the bullbar legislation of 2007?


I checked and double checked with my insurance co to make sure and they are fine with it.
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Glynparry25 wrote:
Looks like a ARB/ TJM copy.... would be worried that it comes above the bonnet... and it is illegal to purchase a Bull/Roo bar manufactured after 2007 for on road use.

Hence why I purchased a old TJM:


Click image to enlarge

Other thing to think about is winch fitment.... the ARB/TJM will fit a wide variety of winches where that one looks like it will only fit a generic low line winch.

Just my 2c worth Mr. Green

Glyn Dog Sheep


Looking nice Mr Parry :thumbsup:

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chiefstoker wrote:
So your insurance company was ok with the fitment of these bullbars, even though the vehicle is newer than the bullbar legislation of 2007?


Bull bar Legislation,...... you have answere your own question...... I have read through the official document more than one time and it doesn't say anything about fitting a pre-2007 bull bar to a post-2007 vehicles.

As mentioned above, the legislation talks about the manufacture of the Bull bar, and the manufacture of new vehicles..... nothing about fitting one after the vehicle has been registred.

My insurance has been informed and have no issues at all with it.

TC wrote:
Looking nice Mr Parry Thumbs Up


Cheers mate, still a few things to do Very Happy

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Sorry to drag this up again, but what is the official line with fitting a full fat bull bar like the ARB/TJM units? Anyone know?


EDIT:
To answer my own question:
http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/dft-...l-bars.pdf
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