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familymad



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 2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
A bit baby blue … 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
Post #995921 11th Jun 2023 5:54pm
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whiterdesign



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The Penpod has been painted to match the Grenadier. 110 XS 250 MY 23 Gondwana Stone, Cold climate pack and towbar
Post #995931 11th Jun 2023 7:41pm
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Moo



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Interesting......

 Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
Post #996063 12th Jun 2023 9:09pm
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bell-auto-services



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Shame he is selling it.

I read and took screen shots from day one on the Ineos site and it was always clearly stated station wagon is a commercial.

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The standard five-seat Grenadier Station Wagon is certified as a commercial vehicle and is fitted with a cargo barrier, to provide the optimum balance between payload and passenger carrying capability.


I’m nearly 4000 miles in and can’t really find anything to moan about with it. It drives a ton better than my 2014 Defender albeit it can drink fuel when hoofing it about the country.
Post #996065 12th Jun 2023 9:19pm
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Co1



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What sort of MPG are you getting Pete?
Post #996081 13th Jun 2023 5:13am
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bell-auto-services



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21ish round town, if sensible speeds on motor way may be upto 28.
Post #996083 13th Jun 2023 6:42am
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Moo



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Same as my D250 then. Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
Post #996096 13th Jun 2023 9:41am
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Chicken Drumstick



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Moo wrote:
Interesting......



Not really that interesting IMO.

He bought a commercial vehicle, but then didn't want a commercial vehicle. I also suspect based on their other videos they are very much the "life-style" as in look at me type of owner. Anything semi utility based was always going to be the wrong vehicle for them.

The only real complaint was the trim you can't really see behind the rear seats.

At the end of the day, Ineos is a small scale/volume car maker and this is their first vehicle and first production run. They where never going to get it 100% right from the off. Lets face it, Ford and many others have been building cars on a mass scale for over 100 years and all of them still get it wrong too, usually on new vehicles and first runs too.
Post #996105 13th Jun 2023 10:44am
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Chicken Drumstick



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Moo wrote:
Interesting......



Not really that interesting IMO.

He bought a commercial vehicle, but then didn't want a commercial vehicle. I also suspect based on their other videos they are very much the "life-style" as in look at me type of owner. Anything semi utility based was always going to be the wrong vehicle for them.

The only real complaint was the trim you can't really see behind the rear seats.

At the end of the day, Ineos is a small scale/volume car maker and this is their first vehicle and first production run. They where never going to get it 100% right from the off. Lets face it, Ford and many others have been building cars on a mass scale for over 100 years and all of them still get it wrong too, usually on new vehicles and first runs too.
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Chicken Drumstick wrote:
Moo wrote:
Interesting......



Not really that interesting IMO.

He bought a commercial vehicle, but then didn't want a commercial vehicle. I also suspect based on their other videos they are very much the "life-style" as in look at me type of owner. Anything semi utility based was always going to be the wrong vehicle for them.

The only real complaint was the trim you can't really see behind the rear seats.

At the end of the day, Ineos is a small scale/volume car maker and this is their first vehicle and first production run. They where never going to get it 100% right from the off. Lets face it, Ford and many others have been building cars on a mass scale for over 100 years and all of them still get it wrong too, usually on new vehicles and first runs too.


Very very true.
Post #996107 13th Jun 2023 10:51am
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LR Nuts



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whiterdesign wrote:
This is what you want, absolutely brilliant piece of kit

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Done it already ......



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...... 6yrs ago.....
Post #996114 13th Jun 2023 11:35am
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LR Nuts



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Saw this at Malvern show recently. I walked past it twice !!!! before I realised what it was Rolling Eyes
Post #996115 13th Jun 2023 11:41am
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defender9



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I saw the light blue Bowker outfit at a local Country Show and managed a good look round it inside and out. The Sales guy was very honest about the various electrical gremlins and I’m sure they will iron these out. The build quality looks great and it looks like it was hewn from a solid lump of metal. I really can’t justify one for the amount of driving I do, but so very tempted.
Post #996276 14th Jun 2023 6:10pm
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mikeh501



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Still amazed how bad the fuel economy is on these. the drivetrain losses, weight and aerodynamics must be knocking 5-7mpg off it id think.

As a general comparator my l494 with the 4.4 diesel gets 23mpg even if you drive it like you stole it, ive had 36mpg on the motorway keeping to the speed limit. Even manages 28mpg when towing a couple of tons.

Im assuming its a bit lighter, no live axles, and has a more aerodynamic body shape?
Post #996462 16th Jun 2023 10:25am
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Chicken Drumstick



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TDv8 in an RR is not really the same thing.

Bet you aren't riding on aggressive all terrain tyres either.

Over the years, engines have got more efficient, but not really in mpg terms, just the ability to make more power for a given mpg.

No reason a Tdi RRC or Disco couldn't do 23-34mpg depending on use. But you only got 1111bhp.

A disco 2 or p38 auto offer very similar mpg again, but a bit more power, but still 100hp less than the Grenadier.

I suspect the TDV8 would make for a lovely engine in the Grenadier, but it has a 6 pot diesel engine.

Looking at the 3.0 litre TD6 L322 it is rated at 25mpg..... again on road tyres. The Grenadier is pretty comparable here.

Parkers say 23-25.9mpg for the Ineos: https://www.parkers.co.uk/ineos/grenadier/...uto/specs/
Post #996481 16th Jun 2023 12:29pm
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