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| BrickBox Member Since: 05 Oct 2021 Location: Wales Posts: 816   
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Option 2 and making sure you take the vehicle on a longer drive every so often and some higher revs.
These new vehicles don’t rev high enough these days with the 7/8/9 speed gearboxes. Therefore don’t generate enough heat on short journeys. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS. |
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12th Mar 2023 9:31am |
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| OldDD Member Since: 17 Jan 2016 Location: Ballaugh Posts: 53  
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What about if you live in a rural area where there isn't a road / trip you do that is long enough for the regen to start never mind finish?
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12th Mar 2023 1:11pm |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 1999 
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Once every few journeys run the vehicle in lower gears so the revs are up at lower speeds, that will help get the exhaust hot enough to do a passive regen.
Note:- This is the madness of the emissions legislation associated with DPF’s. It only works if a certain driving pattern is followed. Else people have to do unnecessary longer high speed journeys or drive in lower gears to get exhaust to temperature. Neither of which can be good for the environment.! |
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12th Mar 2023 1:16pm |
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| BrickBox Member Since: 05 Oct 2021 Location: Wales Posts: 816
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Then you shouldn’t be purchasing a modern diesel. IMO. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS. |
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12th Mar 2023 2:12pm |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 1999
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Change oil and filter every 6k miles and you should be ok unless you get a warning earlier, in which case change more frequently.
Deleting a DPF in the uk is against regulations if vehicle is used on the road. it’s the same in many other countries, I.e EU member states. The DPF also works in conjunction with EGR and the engine ECU. I’m not familiar with your engine but expect it would require an engine remap to do so. I.e you can’t just remove the DPF from the exhaust. |
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12th Mar 2023 2:25pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2759
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Is this an issue on the 3.0 or only on the 2.0 diesel?
l have read the well documented issues on the 2.0 lngenium but l've been told that the 3.0 doesn't have the issue due to the DPF being located very close to the engine. |
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14th Mar 2023 8:16am |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1050  
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I am not sure raising the RPM is going to do anything to the exhaust gas temperature unless you have associated load. The get proper heat you need load more than rpm. You need either a decent motorway run or very spirited driving with hard acceleration. |
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14th Mar 2023 8:52am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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The issue specifically relates to the 2.0 Ingenium in the DiscoSport and other vehicles on the same platform, as it's a consequence of the packaging in those applications. It's not relevant to the Defender. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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14th Mar 2023 9:21am |
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| OldDD Member Since: 17 Jan 2016 Location: Ballaugh Posts: 53
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So do any of the experts know the answer to question 1??
I intend to do 2. anyway but would like to understand what are seen as acceptable parameters for dilution for the D200/250/300 straight 6 Ingenium in particular. Not knowing is OK btw ☺️ |
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14th Mar 2023 10:55am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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Thanks for adding that bit LRA, I’ve been trying to tell people that they aren’t comparing apples with apples as the L663 engine bay was a clean sheet design and they could put the DPF and it’s gubbins in the Optimal places unlike the DS, D5 and Evoque where it had to go where they could squeeze it in. My last RRS was was a 2015 HSE D 3.0ltr and that never had any DPF issues in my hands but I know people who mostly used them for commuting in London and the SE who had lots of problems because they didn’t understand that you had to take them for a decent high speed blast in a low gear (ie not cruising at speed up in 8th gear but giving it some revs in 6th gear) to force a DPF regen every month at least - did they listen………. Not often then they complained that they had the DPF warning light lit up on the dash and needed to visit the service bay to get the dealers to do the regen. In my D240 over 3 years I have never knowingly experienced a DPF regen, I drive mostly on fast A roads 16 miles each way to town and back and a monthly longish drive of about 100-150 miles plus off-roading - it would be nice if LR would put an indicator light on the info screen that came up when a regen were in progress so at least you know not to stop the engine during the process, but oil dilution doesn’t seem to be the issue with L663 that it has been with older Ingenium engines LR’s and Jaguars Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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14th Mar 2023 11:04am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3395 
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There’s a distinct exhaust note when going through a regen, a deep throaty burble.
According to iGUIDE it should have a indicator once a regen is complete  Click image to enlarge 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue |
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14th Mar 2023 12:24pm |
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| whiterdesign Member Since: 10 Jun 2021 Location: Preston Posts: 269
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Think we should have a poll to see if anyone has seen this symbol, it can be on red, amber or green. Wonder what briefly means cos I’ve never seen one 110 XS 250 MY 23 Gondwana Stone, Cold climate pack and towbar
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14th Mar 2023 6:11pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2642
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Never seen one in the two years or so I’ve had mine - 53k miles. I think it’s all passive regens which aren’t indicated, unless you do small journeys.
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14th Mar 2023 6:21pm |
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| whiterdesign Member Since: 10 Jun 2021 Location: Preston Posts: 269
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I do a lot of short journeys but do give it a motorway blast a least every couple of weeks. My last car a Volvo advised you in the manual to give it a longer higher speed journey at least every tankful of diesel. 110 XS 250 MY 23 Gondwana Stone, Cold climate pack and towbar
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14th Mar 2023 6:43pm |
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