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ashcurrie



Member Since: 26 Jan 2017
Location: Northern Ireland
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United Kingdom 1992 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Santorini Black
I wanted to support a local NI company when I went through my 200tdi rebuild 2 years ago. So I purchased both a Shielder bulkhead and chassis. Biggest mistake I have ever made. Unfortunately I had to use the bulkhead as I had it painted prior to fitting (I know rookie error). Very little lined up, dash holes, wiper mounts, vent covers, I had to drill out all the door mounting holes to get the doors to fit, gearbox tunnel was a completely different shape, door catch mounts where in the wrong position etc.

I went through 2 chassis's from them. The first was a complete disaster. They then sent me a replacement which I still wasn't happy with. Mounting holes in the wrong position, I couldn't get the power steering box to mount up with the rest of the steering elements, would have involved shimming it out from the chassis which I refused to do. I wasted so much time with them and it cost me much time and stress.

In the end I purchased a Marsland Chassis and everything went together like a dream (excluding anything relating to the Shielder bulkhead).

I've heard of many more stories re Shielder from locals within the LR community and it's a similar story. I just can't fathom how a company can get so much wrong and still be selling products in supposedly just large quantities.

So please stay well clear and good luck Thumbs Up 1992 Defender 90 SW 200Tdi
2008 Defender 110 USW
Post #974129 10th Dec 2022 9:55am
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Andy80



Member Since: 31 May 2013
Location: Essex
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England 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Cairns Blue
Ultra bulkheads look good, has anyone fitted one? Working towards Carry on camping!
Post #974145 10th Dec 2022 12:27pm
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Mdm



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as above we fitted an ultra one earlier this year to a mates td5 .its ok but lots of little things spoil it and for the money it should be better i think.pm if you want the list of things that needed fettling. but on the upside it did fit onto a richards chassis no issues.

as for sheilder.no one around us fits them.....

we have a richards one due to go on a 200 tdi that may arrive before xmas but if not early jan and we will report back how that goes.
Post #974154 10th Dec 2022 1:37pm
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Linds Hanson



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Anyone fitted a Maer stainless bulkhead yet? I wonder if they are producing the Hobson bulkheads? They dont seem to list anything later than 300TDI spec and even these are temporarily unavailable?
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Linds Hanson



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Mdm wrote:
as above we fitted an ultra one earlier this year to a mates td5 .its ok but lots of little things spoil it and for the money it should be better i think.pm if you want the list of things that needed fettling. but on the upside it did fit onto a richards chassis no issues.

as for sheilder.no one around us fits them.....

we have a richards one due to go on a 200 tdi that may arrive before xmas but if not early jan and we will report back how that goes.
How did it go?
Post #982636 16th Feb 2023 1:13pm
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Chicken Drumstick



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I guess the other consideration would be.... do you actually need to replace the bulkhead?

It is rare (or maybe never) that they completely fail. And you can buy repair panels for the bits that do rust. Might be a heck of a lot less work if you retain the original.
Post #982640 16th Feb 2023 1:57pm
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paul 123



Member Since: 10 Jul 2022
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United Kingdom 1995 Defender 90 300 Tdi PU Caledonian Blue
i am collecting a richards chassis bulkhead tomorrow. i hope the quality is the same as the chassis.
Post #982648 16th Feb 2023 3:45pm
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Linds Hanson



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Dont we only use Marsland chassis Very Happy
Post #982652 16th Feb 2023 4:10pm
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Mdm



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well a little feed back on the 200 tdu richards bulkhead. we got one of the 1st batch. were told to report back any findings so they can improve the next batch.

so the bad news its flipping ace.
better than anything else on the market.
drops straight on a new chassis.
dash holes line up
all the rivnuts are in place
vent flap holes are drilled out unlike ultra ones
square holes for the fixings where they need to be unlike other ones you have to drill and file out.
now it did run late due to xmas and tooling issues but well worth the wait.

all that was missing was 1 fuel pipe clip hole and they dont drill that one as it varies on tdi where it is.
2 little holes to hold the relays behind the dash needed drilling. i suspect they will add these to the next batch as they have cad drawings and positions to the mm for them.

im not saying dont buy any other but wait until you see one of these up close.

you can go over and watch them building them up which i did.

i have a pile of pics of the lads building them and some of the e coat ones which are very good too.

they have even split a few of the test ones to see how far the galv and e coat has covered which is nice.
Post #982665 16th Feb 2023 5:47pm
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Linds Hanson



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Sounds good
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paul 123



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United Kingdom 1995 Defender 90 300 Tdi PU Caledonian Blue
just back from collecting a bulkhead from richards chassis. had the factory tour very interesting. the bulkhead looks top quality.
Post #982800 17th Feb 2023 3:58pm
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Mdm



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well we're working our way thru the 90 as we speak.

maybe start a new thread as you rebuild yours .

i have to say i like that fact that richards will let you have an up close and personal look at what they make, and they welcome feedback. unlike the last one we bought. they new things were missing and couldn't care less .

both doors went on without an issue.

all the major components fitted spot on.

1 wing on today and it lines up lovely

apologies for the wonky seam sealer lines.



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nice not to have to drill holes for grommets and the fact the holes are correct size saves time.

extra wax before the wing goes back on.

will happily buy another but poss an e coated one

a few pics of the work pre galv or e coat they do. the brackets and stampings are a work of art.
Post #982807 17th Feb 2023 5:14pm
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Hufflepuff



Member Since: 25 Oct 2014
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England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Tonga Green
I am quite looking forward to seeing how the Juice Motors team get on with this Shielder bulkhead. I have one myself currently fitted on a Richards Chassis, but I haven't got far enough with it yet to get the doors on to see how they fit. I'm hoping the Juice team don't find too many surprises in part 2 and 3 with it (not yet released).

 2005 Td5 90 XS
1989 V8 110 CSW
Post #982820 17th Feb 2023 6:17pm
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Gerry



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Have you progressed enough yet to see how everything aligns, doors wings?
Post #985138 11th Mar 2023 12:32pm
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Mdm



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the one we fitted is spot on.
no issues with doors or wing fit.

so good they are a mate has ordered a 300 tdi one to rebuild his so no rest for us folk helping him.

ive seen a link they are at a show somewhere with them soon not sure which one though
Post #985145 11th Mar 2023 1:39pm
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