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bear100



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Superpro bushes DIY?
Hi all

I have purchased a Superpro bush kit for my puma

Are all the bushes a diy fit using standard tools on the driveway? Ie no hydraulic press etc.
I do have a vice though! 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8
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LandRoverAnorak



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The difficult part is usually getting the old bushes out. Darren

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steveww



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Pushing the new ones will work with a vice. Getting out the old ones is a totally different kettle of fish.

To remove the old ones without a very big press requires a bit of work but is possible. What I've found that works is:

Use a whole saw to remove the rubber innards.
This leaves the old metal sleeve.
Use a hacksaw the cut through the sleeve, careful not to damage the suspension part.
A large hammer and drift/chisel or air hammer to bash the sleeve out.
You want to curl it in on itself a bit from both sides first.

You'll also need an air wrench (dugga, dugga) or a long breaker bar and a big torque wrench. Some of the nuts and bolts are quite large so make sure you've got sockets and spanners big enough before you start.
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geobloke



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Re: Superpro bushes DIY?
bear100 wrote:
Hi all

I have purchased a Superpro bush kit for my puma

Are all the bushes a diy fit using standard tools on the driveway? Ie no hydraulic press etc.
I do have a vice though!


"Super" bushes Thumbs Up The last set I did without a vice and it worked beautifully... In and out. Job done. https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic53859-225.html
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Litch



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Fitting SuperPro bushes is easy enough with a vice.

Removing OE bushes without a press is easy enough, I have always gone with the hole-cutter / hacksaw blade method.
This is my A-frame, less than 10-mins per bush.


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hank



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Definitely a DIY job, but a whole kit is time consuming. I paid someone to fit mine as I couldn't be arsed spending a whole weekend fitting bushes > 110 XS Double Cab
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donmacn



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steveww wrote:


Use a whole saw to remove the rubber innards.



This is what I've done. Just a small thing to add, which you'd think would be obvious (but it took me a while... Whistle ) ... spray some WD40 onto your hole saw periodically otherwise the rubber melts, binds to the saw, and makes your drill work really, really hard. A wee bit of lube and it goes through the old bush so much fastet. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
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edward



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I’m about to get the garage to do mine - at the same time as I do a full suspension upgrade- how long do you think it should take? So I don’t get taken for a ride … thanks
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bear100



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Great news! Thanks for the replies and lots of tips

Well saying great news what I really mean is…….more skinless knuckles, cuts, Dinitroled hands and arms, a full on shift with lots of cursing and sweat! And all the while thinking why did I start this! Lol

Had a nightmare removing the drop arm to fit the Gwyn Lewis kit Sunday so might put it off for a bit! 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8
2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI
2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone)
2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone)
1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone)
1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone)
1994 discovery 300tdi (gone)
90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone)
Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone)
Post #982351 13th Feb 2023 8:31pm
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landy andy



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Just swapped all my bushes from LR ones to Supepro ones. Just used vice, hacksaw, chisel and hammer. Gwyn Lewis does a good price for the full bush kit, and also does a bolt kit, so you can have new bolts for all the new bushes if required.
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LandymanStefan



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How does it feel since the change?
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landy andy



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Much tighter, firmer, but less crashy. Although I did also do full suspension swap at same time, and steering bars. So it has all made a massive difference to me. Only thing I didn’t do is rear axle ball joint, and it’s bushes which is on the list once I purchase the forgotten ball joint.
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donmacn



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I think I wrote this up a little as part of my resto thread, but when I fitted these bushes all round it made a big, noticeable difference to the car. Much more precise steering, and no downsides that I could see.

Bear - I feel your pain! I had a similar ‘mare doing mine. Ended up grinding through it. If you’ve done the sumo bars mod, and are now doing the bushes I think you’ll be really pleased with the results. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #982398 14th Feb 2023 9:03am
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Chris86



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Bushes
Have done this on a number of vehicles with/without a press.

If you are in a position where you have a friendly garage with a press close by- its probably worth taking all the various bits to them and getting them to press them out- it can be a faff getting the bushes out otherwise and quite time consuming- but perfectly doable if you don't mind spending time persevering with a hacksaw and a cold-chisel.

A decent round edge file and some emery cloth to tidy any poor edges on the components is well worth it.

While you are about it, its worth spending the extra bit to renew the various bolts/fixings too- the bolts in the upper A-Frame in particular are often necked.

Chris
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MarkBrown



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I'm not sure if it's recommended but I always burn out the old bushes with a blow lamp, them hacksaw out the metal part, finishing with a cold chisel. They can fly out though, so best done in the open, not by your head and it stinks. I never thought of a hole saw, I might try that next time.
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