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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17316   
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The V5 should provide the current and previous owner, but apart from that I am not aware of any legit way to do this.
Does it matter? Is a service history important? It is an extremely low mileage vehicle which cuts both ways - Defenders don't really like not being used - but if the condition matches the mileage and the price is right for you, I don't see that the service history matters a jot. The total mileage on that vehicle is about the same as my 2007 Defender had done by its first birthday, by which time it had had one dealer service and three replacement clutches (the early Puma clutch was really quite special in terms of defectiveness and inadequacy). |
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16th Jan 2023 3:14pm |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665 
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Agree with Blackwolf, the condition is most important.
You can use the lack of service data as a negotiation? Have a look how clean the oil is, maybe the cleanliness of the air filter? Swing the "door" open and see if the fuel filter looks new-ish? I'm sure you can make an educated guess as to the work done? A bit of Sherlock Holmes needed 
You could always pop the registration number on here and see if someone has knowledge of the vehicle??? As usual, do a full HPI check - sometimes that shows up useful info?? Mine's been home serviced since the warranty expired 10 years ago, and been very well serviced! Only the best for my Defender Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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16th Jan 2023 3:34pm |
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| roche1800 Member Since: 07 Apr 2020 Location: derbyshire Posts: 325 |
Thanks for the replies, I know the V5 gives the number of owners and the current owner.
Does it give the previous owner name and address as well? |
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16th Jan 2023 4:34pm |
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| Rosco Member Since: 03 Dec 2010 Location: Burntwood Posts: 1833 
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The current V5 registered to the current keeper will have the previous owners details, but if your buying from a dealer they might not be very keen for you to see that. Official secrets act, sorry i mean GDPR, wil be their reason. 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone
2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone 2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW |
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16th Jan 2023 4:50pm |
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| Berni99 Member Since: 02 Jan 2022 Location: Bath Posts: 37 
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I'd agree. Condition is the key. 12 months back I bought a 2012 110 XS off the 2nd owners who'd had it for 10 years (main dealer demo for 6 months, then them). But there was only one main dealer service then a load of local specialists. Some of the invoices were pretty poor by my standards so who knows how/if the work was actually done? However, the condition of the car was really good and the rest is history.
If you are not knowledgeable then suggest to take it to be independently checked. If they're genuine then they should be open to that. If all checks out then haggle for a sensible price given no docs. |
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16th Jan 2023 6:14pm |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410
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It is an interesting one. I guess if the vehicle is anywhere between 0.1 and 5 years old then I would expect there to be dealer invoices, but anywhere post that it really wouldn't bother me in the slightest if there was paperwork or not. When it comes to Land Rovers, as other have said, it really comes down to knowing what you are looking at and accepting the vehicle in front of you for what it is and what it could be under your tenure.
As long as I am happy with the overall condition of the vehicle I know that there will be things that will need doing when I get it home, such as servicing, coolant flushing and timing belts. I am happy in that knowledge. I have no qualms taking a jack with me and checking wheel bearings or diff lock or crawling underneath to get a look at the chassis etc. I couldn't give two figs about what is bolted on to the vehicle, it is very much down to how the chassis, bulkhead etc are, everything else is just window dressing. Good luck  |
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16th Jan 2023 6:25pm |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1012  
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I would take a good condition and caring owner over any service maintenance record.
Garages are on the clock and plenty make money by cutting corners. Many issues i find on cars i own(ed) involve someone having been in there before me, supposedly serviced etc. Clutch changed with invoice, half the bolts missing, stuff like that. |
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16th Jan 2023 6:48pm |
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| HK07 Member Since: 15 Dec 2016 Location: Hampshire Posts: 746  
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Same here, and that type of ownership is the best to buy from 2007 90 Puma - Love it - Best car I have ever owned.
1989 Ninety 200tdi - Love it - Second best car I have ever owned. 1951 80" Series 1 - Love it - Third best car I have ever owned. |
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17th Jan 2023 8:14pm |
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| jim4244 Member Since: 13 Apr 2014 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 771 
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The trouble with defenders is that they are very easy to clock. Service history would give an additional check of the mileage and could be compared to that provided on the MOT.
Jim |
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17th Jan 2023 9:36pm |
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| Birdy Member Since: 07 Oct 2011 Location: Côte d'Azur Posts: 863 
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Agree that the truck can be/should be considered "as is" and easily checked for condition, but is there any reason for Owner 2 simply not saying: " I bought it from... [Owner 1]"?
Peter |
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18th Jan 2023 11:23am |
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| roche1800 Member Since: 07 Apr 2020 Location: derbyshire Posts: 325 |
I didn’t buy it, been resprayed so I think it could either be genuine or hiding something …
On the look out for any 2.2tdci 2012 onwards, anything considered |
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19th Jan 2023 5:12pm |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665
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roche
Not wanting to re-start the age old argument about what's best (2.4. or 2.2)... But... Any reason why you specifically want 2.2 over a late 2.4 ??? Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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20th Jan 2023 6:43am |
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| roche1800 Member Since: 07 Apr 2020 Location: derbyshire Posts: 325 |
To reply 2.2 or 2.4, simply the 2.2 is the most recent version!! 🙈
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21st Jan 2023 11:44am |
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| Julie Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: Nantes Posts: 463 
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Do they furnish other documents (invoiced oil changes ...)
That could help verify its low mileage. |
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21st Jan 2023 8:57pm |
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