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jpboost

Member Since: 13 Apr 2021
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Vatican Defenders

Hi All,

I've just got back from a few days sightseeing in Rome, which included a tour of the Vatican museums.

At one point you go through a walkway which overlooks the private carpark for people who actually live in the Vatican

Here's a couple of pictures...

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So with at least 2, maybe 3 Defenders ( I can't quite be certain about the one facing away from the camera) would that make the Vatican the country with the most Defenders per head in the world? The tour guide said there are only 820 people who live there, so that's 1 defender for every 400 people (or even less if there are 3).

EDIT: Actually, looking a bit closer, the closest one doesn't look quite right for a Defender.. is it a Santana?

Cheers

Jon

12th Dec 2022 1:07pm

camelman

Member Since: 27 Feb 2013
Location: Peak District
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They all belong to the Vatican Fire brigade

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The other one does appear to be a Santana

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12th Dec 2022 2:08pm

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
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[anorak mode]It's actually an Iveco Massif[/anorak mode]

Darren

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12th Dec 2022 3:21pm

camelman

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So whats the difference between a Massif and a Santana, didn't Santana build them? (Other than the fact they're both ugly!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iveco_Massif

12th Dec 2022 3:29pm

LandRoverAnorak

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Not huge amounts, to be honest. It was largely a re-badged version of the previous Santana PS-10 but Iveco is Italian and this is in Italy (sort of), so it'll be an Iveco rather than a Santana. Darren

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12th Dec 2022 3:36pm

LandRoverAnorak

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Ha, ignore that! I've just found an Italian web page that says it's a PS-10 afterall! They must keep their vehicles for a good length of time

https://antincendio-italia.it/il-corpo-dei...-vaticano/ Darren

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12th Dec 2022 3:41pm

camelman

Member Since: 27 Feb 2013
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I don't suppose they do many miles around the Vatican! Maybe the odd job if the wrong colour smoke comes out of the chimney

12th Dec 2022 3:54pm

jpboost

Member Since: 13 Apr 2021
Location: Gatwick
Posts: 377

Thanks for the additional info guys.

And also the confirmation that there are other who are as geeky as (or possibly even geekier than) I am.

15th Dec 2022 2:27pm

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