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Grenadier



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Calling all owners with Tailgates….drop down or swing?
Wotcha.

I’ve been mulling over adapting my tailgate from drop down to swing. I use the truck bed A LOT and when I didn’t have the hood, access into the back was easy from all directions, including the sides when getting at something sitting under the rear window.

But since I added the hood, it’s an effing nightmare leaning in and over the tailgate when in its lowered position. And I’m sure side access will be equally difficult, even without the hood on, when I finally get around to fitting the full SW roll cage.

So I’m thinking of changing to a swing tailgate to make access easier, (and also should work better with my yet to be fitted Mantec wheel carrier), but I’m just wondering if any of you out there who’ve made the change from drop down to swing, have regretted it? I do like the usability of the tailgate to perch on, use as a table, etc, but I think it’s benefits are outweighed by the cocking about i have to do to get anything from deep inside the bed. Having a ‘table’ could easily be rectified by having a slimline extendable bed.

But generally speaking, any thoughts? Any regrets? Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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Post #961962 17th Aug 2022 8:47am
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geobloke



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How about a load bed slide?

For example https://www.vanimal.com/heavy-duty-sliding...-QQAvD_BwE
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Grenadier



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Yup. Sort of what I’m thinking but with swing away gate. Monsieur Le Grenadier

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Post #961966 17th Aug 2022 8:59am
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LandRoverAnorak



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How about the best of both worlds:

http://www.purelymetal.co.uk/set-of-double...te-hinges/ Darren

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Grenadier



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LRA. You’ve nailed it. That is exactly what I was wondering about doing. Best of both worlds. Thank you for that. Have a brownie point. Thumbs Up Bow down Monsieur Le Grenadier

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Post #961968 17th Aug 2022 9:07am
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LandRoverAnorak



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Why, thank you Laughing Darren

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Post #961971 17th Aug 2022 9:32am
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blackwolf



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I favour the drop down myself. It is a useful seat/table/workbench/step, and it discourages me from whacking my kneecaps on the tow hitch. If I need to reach further in I kneel on the tailgate. Finally but replacing the split pin on the RH hinge with an R-clip of an appropriate size (or simply binning the split pin) it is the work of second to remove the tailgate altogether (although it helps if you replace the awful plastic-coated wire stays with Series-type bagged chain stays).
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Grenadier



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I have to do a little jump/hop if I’m to get anywhere near kneeling on the tailgate. The stays are frigging tiresome, I shall check out the series versions. Ta. I might just put a swing door on and then fashion my own bed slider to replace the seat/work bench set up. But first I need to do a graph and work out how many times I use the tail gate as a workbench versus how many times I get fed up trying to get stuff in or out of the depths of the tub. We’ve been doing extensive work on the house and garden and at 5’8”, putting in, let alone dragging out, bag after bag of 35kg ballast/sand/cement is just a balls ache. Or 25 breeze blocks. Or 140 bricks, put in laced removed, one by one. Etc. Etc. Big Cry Monsieur Le Grenadier

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Post #961998 17th Aug 2022 2:03pm
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Bundy



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If you make it swing you can't carry oversized loads as easily...
That was my main reason for leaving mine drop down.
I'm a dab hand at removing the cables to drop it out the way to load the back as I have a lid that prevents most side access.
Cheers
Al
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I Like Old Skool



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The cables on my drop-down tailgate unclip in seconds if I want to lower it out of the way, although this isn't ideal if you have a towbar (see all the dented tailgates where careless/uncaring users have whacked it down hard).

Surely an inexpensive set of releasing cables and the correct brackets is the simplest/easiest/cheapest solution?
Post #962106 18th Aug 2022 10:03am
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Grouse



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Another vote here for the Purely Metal Tailgate hinges - it gives you the best of both worlds - I paid a bit extra, got them galvanised and then painted with a rattle can
Post #962209 19th Aug 2022 5:06am
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Litch



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I have side-hinged (have for over 20-years) and the WH carrier attached to it so they swing open together.
Works for me. ONE LIFE, GET IT!
Post #962309 20th Aug 2022 9:34am
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seriesonenut



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Pretty sure if you search on JOW240725 's posts you will find James has bottom / side hinge's fitted to his V8 Ninety when he converted to a soft top. 2010 XS USW
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alwoodley72



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Every pickup I’ve owned I convert to swing away, so much easier to use, especially if you get a wheel carrier…( choose one that bolts to door)
Easy to do as well, I use a leather check strap or a rear door stay to keep it open.


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Next handiest addition is a sliding drawer, massively increases usability, can also get a sliding floor such as mine was before I converted it to aid getting things out.
I’m a landscaper/ timber buildings constructor so my pickups always get worked..

Cheers alex 98 300 tdi 90 project
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Post #962401 21st Aug 2022 2:18pm
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