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Bill



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Ireland 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Basic Servicing
Well any tips. I am left with no choice but to do it myself. I just want to do the Air, Oil, & Fuel filters and a change of oil, sump plug of course and top the rear diff as I have bad seal, “just a weep” as the LR guy said. Will replace the flange when I get the readys together. But,
I have been told a few strange things about the puma, like it has two oil filters? I can only see the one on the bottom of the engine, looks plastic? and normal. Will this come off with the appropriate socket? Anyway any tips on any of it and order to proceed.
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Post #94982 18th Oct 2011 10:01pm
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chrisbowler



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Bill

Only 1 oil filter, tiny thing inside the plastic cap.

Watch that when you change fuel filter you fill new filter with clean diesel or fuel addative when you refit new filter - this will minimise air in system and prevent the need for special bleeding tool - PUMA cannot pull fuel from tank to pump with air in system - needs neat fuel all the time - change fuel filter quickly so as not to allow too much air into system

Otherwise, they are more or less the same as TD5/ 300 tdi defenders to service.

Chris Bowler
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MartinK



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Bill

Engine oil is easy to do. Get the truck level, and slide in from the front (you do the filter & drain from under), you'll see this:

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Oil filter is the dome on the left (passenger side of vehicle), with a 27mm hex on the bottom.
Oil drain is the 13mm obvious drain on the bottom of the sump (top right of photo).

loosen the filter first (you'll need a long extension bar, as it's well recessed above), let the oil dribble before you remove the plastic dome completely. Then the oil sump drain.

When you remove the filter completely, it's a small paper-type element which just fits back into the plastic dome. You get a new O ring with the filter, so change that too.

It holds around 7 litres, so make sure you have something big enough to hold all the old oil...and it DOES come out fast so be prepared. It should be warm, so it drains better.

The oil is Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 A1 Fully Synthetic Engine Oil (Recommended by Ford) - you will need 7 litres. Most buy 2 x 4 Litre cans from Opie Oils.

When refitting, you can re-use the oil drain plug, it has a rubberised washer.

Tightening torques are:
Oil Drain plug: 23nm
Oil Filter housing 35nm

PS the Puma has 1 filter, part number LR004459. It was the TD5 which had 2 filters... Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)


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Post #95006 19th Oct 2011 7:26am
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Grockle



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use genuine parts and approved oil Thumbs Up

ps are you near Shillelagh ? 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.
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Regarding the above query, have Land Rover stops issuing ECU updates for the Puma. That was one of my reasons for going to the maindealer,to make sure I had the latest update. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
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Post #95046 19th Oct 2011 12:45pm
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Bill



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Ireland 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Thanks for replies lads, this is my first LR and I am piratically nerves with it. This will help boost my confidence. Manley worked on bikes before. Martin, Chris, would have been a long time looking for that second filter Confused Good info there martin appreciate the detail and have spent many a night considering oils, by the way, ep 90 for the rear diff? drove over the torques, was going to mark and count, maybe i should reinvest, cheaper in the long run.
Grockle, Shillelagh Surprised only a country mile away. story, you been this way?
Spudfan, Don't know but I had mine done in April and the hand brake and valve ER valve Rolling Eyes cant think of its name now, I was pleased with LR as I didn't buy it from a dealer, and it was out of warranty. I only knew of these recalls from this site and thought they would tell me to jump.(Great Site, god knows what trouble I would be in without this) Ill let ye know how I get on, hopefully wont be posting pic's of cracked oil pans or the like. 08 Puma 90xs
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Post #95129 19th Oct 2011 10:38pm
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jst



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Martin - whats that line on your sump?

you dont need to replace the sump drain plug, it has a rubber sealing ring.

fuel filter as advised above to minimise air intake.

Rest is simple.

Dont forget the rest of the service items! Cheers

James
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Post #95257 20th Oct 2011 7:35pm
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Bill



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called my dealer today, €138 for service kit Twisted Evil only €38 for a Bearmach kit from a local distributor. Anything wrong with their filters?

Edit: yea Martin what happened you pan? I thought at first it was a dribble of oil, but it also looks like a weld job? 08 Puma 90xs
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KXF250

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Post #95288 20th Oct 2011 9:05pm
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MartinK



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jst wrote:
Martin - whats that line on your sump?

Quote:
Edit: yea Martin what happened you pan? I thought at first it was a dribble of oil, but it also looks like a weld job?


It IS a dribble of oil! Not sure where it came from, but I'll be keeping an eye on it! Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
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john adam



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MartinK wrote:



PS the Puma has 1 filter, part number LR004459. It was the TD5 which had 2 filters...


Martin,
I also want to change the engine oil, but the part number I found on internet for the oil filter is LR030778. Does this number correspond to the same filter??
thanks
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2004 90 TD5 gone
2010 110 S Puma TDCI running
Post #95669 22nd Oct 2011 7:51pm
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wslr



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LR004459 has changed to LR030778.
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dilukabey



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Recetly I changed my all oil, air and fuel filters with britpart and genuine lr and the corresponding part numbers were LR00445 , PHE500060, WJI500040 G.
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MartinK



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INteresting, I just went into my local LR dealer, and bought mine over the counter. I just asked for a Puma oil filter, and the part # was the one I put on the posting.

If you ask at your local LR parts dept, they'll usually give you 10% discount, which makes them competitive with internet sellers (by the time you've paid P&P). Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
Post #95730 23rd Oct 2011 9:13am
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Grockle



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Morning Bill,

Yes, been that way a few times, do you drink in the Dying Cow at all ? 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.
Post #95731 23rd Oct 2011 9:17am
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john adam



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MartinK wrote:

If you ask at your local LR parts dept, they'll usually give you 10% discount, which makes them competitive with internet sellers (by the time you've paid P&P).


Not in France Sad . Here spare parts are more expensive so internet (UK sites, of course) is a good alternative
Carlo 1971 88 Series IIA somewhere in Southern Italy
1989 Ninety stolen in Paris
2004 90 TD5 gone
2010 110 S Puma TDCI running
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