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| BrickBox Member Since: 05 Oct 2021 Location: Wales Posts: 811   
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I cannot believe what I am seeing. There’s me ASSUMING a 3rd row will always fold flat, like every other Land Rover has done previously… absolutely baffled by this design…  2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS. |
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1st Jun 2022 5:45am |
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| LRSpain004 Member Since: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Elche Posts: 68 
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I have a 2018 Toyota Prado 7 seat (after many Defenders) and the seats are designed to simply fold and create a flat floor. This car was designed at least 10 years ago. I can only conclude the photograph er didn't know how to fold them flat before shooting, as that is a
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1st Jun 2022 7:20am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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Looks like the 130’s 3rd row were lifted lock, stock and barrel from the 2nd row of seats in a 90 without any thought about use of the load carrying ability of the car. Cost cutting again………. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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1st Jun 2022 7:22am |
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| RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 592 
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That’s rubbish
 They have known how to make flat folding seats for over 15years the D3 was a great setup. This stinks if reusing parts to do it on the cheap. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold D4 MY12 HSE - Gone D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten |
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1st Jun 2022 7:31am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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It's difficult to understand how they've taken such a massive step backwards in this area when compared to the D3/4
Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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1st Jun 2022 7:41am |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481 
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Oops 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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1st Jun 2022 8:15am |
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| kenzle8a Member Since: 12 Feb 2020 Location: None Posts: 1074
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Ah Gerry's reductive philosophy in this case meaning inventing less parts...
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1st Jun 2022 9:07am |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4655 
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I have slept in the back of a 90, I have slept in the back of a 110 but I do not see how I could sleep in the back of that. The length is great but the uneven seats just destroy the practicality. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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2nd Jun 2022 9:55am |
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| Sepp Member Since: 05 Oct 2020 Location: Bavaria Posts: 114 
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To me it looks like they did not lift the cushion prior to folding the squab. If I do this on the 110 I get similar uneven floor.
So I assume that with properly lifted cushions the seats will fold flat. The step between boot floor and folded seats will remain however, just like in the 90. |
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2nd Jun 2022 10:19am |
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| Ashbyandy Member Since: 17 Dec 2015 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 223  
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They’ve totally lost the plot with this seat setup. As others have said, just look at disco 3/4, so well planned out, mine was to carry all sorts, couldn’t do it with this. Do you think JLR really know what people want and need from these vehicles 🤔, or is Gerry really so far up his own arse, that he doesn’t care.
Ashby Andy |
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2nd Jun 2022 10:24am |
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| Hairy Dan Member Since: 25 Apr 2013 Location: NW Durham Posts: 1414 
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If you can get away with just 5 seats you can get a reasonably flat floor, but I would have thought the main reason for the extra length is the extra seating available
 Click image to enlarge Cheers Ian -------------------- 22MY Defender 110 D200 SE, Fuji White. Kielder 4x4 Safari Instagram @defender_v8 |
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2nd Jun 2022 4:01pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2630 
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Rivian has shown the way forward…….and shows how far JLR are lagging behind
However, it’s not priced to encourage the masses into what would be a very practical and stylish EV station wagon. But then, what is these days……..  |
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2nd Jun 2022 5:19pm |
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| JackW Member Since: 09 Jan 2017 Location: Roswell, Georgia Posts: 115  
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Apparently the 5 seat version is not currently available for order in the USA - plus no diesel or four cylinder models. The step up for the rearmost seat like the one in the 90 really screws up the concept of the flat floor.
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3rd Jun 2022 9:40pm |
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| zilch Member Since: 11 Sep 2019 Location: Whitsundays & Sydney Posts: 817 
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guestimates that in the land down under is that the 130 is going to come in at about $24K Aussie
above their equivalent 110 versions. Our 110 7 seat SE delivery cost including full list of options, dealer bits and the exorbitant government $$ charges is the equivalent of the starting price for the 130 and that is before you add the equivalent factory and dealer options i had 
https://www.drive.com.au/news/2023-land-ro...australia/ yet another pommie bar steward down under MY20 110 P400 SE Defender MY10 3.0 RR Sport |
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5th Jun 2022 7:41am |
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